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So did Josh Norman and a host of others

Oh man, I had forgotten about that, he just walked away and we were stuck with nothing. Painful memory there! That is what bad front offices do, you take this trade and you run, get something while you can before we have another good player just walk away and we are searching for his replacement with no compensation

Maybe I'm not counting right but what I see is Mack with 40.5 sacks in his first 4 years and BB at 16.5

The Bears traded two first-round picks, a third-round pick and a sixth round pick to the Oakland Raiders for Mack and 2020 second round and conditional fifth round draft picks. But even the most diehard fan on here isn't going to compare Kalil Mack to Brian Burns....are they?

Here is the thing about future picks, let's say that, so far, the front office isn't sold on any of the QB's in this years draft class and are looking ahead. Let's also say that looking ahead to next years draft class they see 3 or 4 QB's that they believe has more potential than the current QB class. Having that additional capital gives them room to negotiate. Not saying I agree with that but my goodness (and this pains me to say as a Duke fan), a chance to get Maye would already be tickling my fancy. Burns is a good player, and I really like him but being honest with where we are right now, the draft picks are more important than one particular player.

I like McCall, A LOT, but not with a top 5 pick, probably not with any first-round pick but if the plan is to trade back you certainly have to look hard at him

So we are a passing team this week? No identity, last week committed to the run, coaches say they are committed to the run, start the game with the running back averaging over 5 yards per run, then what happened? They have completely abandoned the run the last couple of drives

Not to mention play calling isn't helping him at all, seems like every series its run, run, WR screen, punt. Either the OC doesn't trust him to throw the ball, or he is just an idiot

I just read on MSN that they fully expect a trade, the panthers turned down the 2 first rounder option to drive up the value. Not sure if that’s true but makes sense. “The expectation is that Burns will still be traded despite the Panthers continuing to deny it”

Not true, and I wasn’t just talking about the post I quoted. What you hear about McCall is good arm not great, not the most athletic and not the fastest but can escape pressure when he needs to. Who does that sound like coming out of college? The small school is true but Brady’s first year as a starter Michigan was ranked 12th, last year, CCU was ranked 11th. I also disagree that no one outside of the Carolinas have heard of CCU given Josh Norman, Mike Tolbert, Dustin Johnson, MLB players and their college World Series win. In other words, he should be getting a lot more national coverage than he is, kid is just a winner, 23-4 or something like that! Agreed it’s not SEC competition but stil

This is exactly the scouting report on Tom Brady coming out of college. Definitely not saying he is Tom Brady but watching C.J. Today, I would rather trade down, get more picks and get McCall.

Sounds like the team is at least listening "The #Panthers also have received multiple trade calls on their other top playmaker, wide receiver D.J. Moore, per sources, but the team has considered Moore a foundational piece to the roster. That would make a trade tough to execute," said Jeremy Fowler.

So what do we have now for the draft next year 1st, 2nd's, 3rd, 4th and 5th rounder with either our 4th or 5th gone in the trade for Baker?

I honestly hate to see him go but it's probably for the best. Hopefully he goes to a contender and has a chance to win a ring and we will get some draft capital for the new regime to build the team the way they see fit.

So you honestly don’t think a 1000 yard receiver, which btw was Sams best receiver in NY, and had chemistry with him AND our glorious ex coach was positive Sam was going to be the Franchise QB of the future, to lock Robbie up for basically Pennie’s on the dollar compared to other #1 receivers? Now we both know Robbie isn’t that but I’m trying to put myself in their shoes at the time. Year 1 was outstanding, so they locked him up, I get that. Sucks it went to poo after that but if you can see the future please give me the winning lottery number, I swear I’ll split it with you

No, even if he wins a few games doesn’t sound like his seat is safe

They extended him because he had over 90 catches and over 1000 receiving yards in 2020 and was the best wide receiver we had on the roster. Honestly, hindsight being 20/20 and all, it was a pretty smart move then

As he should be, given the circumstances he was given I think he has done one hell of a job. Example today, nobody thought we would get multiple picks for Robbie but he did.

I agree with you here, I love to see people that care about winning! However, I think there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Distancing yourself from your teammates probably wasn't the right thing to do but still I agree with your point

What you also have to mention with McCall is his moxie, the kid just seems to have the IT factor if you ever watch him. He basically wills his team to wins. Yes, you can say they play lesser competition, but that same competition has beaten power 5 schools on the regular lately and to add to that, he is playing with players that don't have the talent of an Ohio St, Clemson, Alabama, etc. So, he is doing all this, because he is GOOD, not because he has NFL talent at every position around him. I'm sold on McCall, would not be mad at all if we traded back, picked up some draft capital and picked him up.

If we are look at players that we are trading back for, it has to be Grayson McCall.

I actually thought he did good with the press conference. I like him being "cagey" makes me think he really wants to win and is disappointed we haven't. He admitted he was still learning, admitted that he is accountable to the fans, admitted mistakes, all things he didn't have to do. Some people say he gave vague answers, I didn't take it that way, I took it exactly how he said it...winning, getting over the hump is winning, being patient is winning more this year than you did last, and winning more next year than you did this year but seeing progress IN THAT AREA which he hasn't. Not sure what all the hate is about with his press conference, personally I say thank you for coming out doing what you didn't have to do! Now, what time is the Wilks press conference

Notice how they don’t show Tepper in the owners box anymore? It’s because he left the game early too

Thank God my wife and I decided to go to a bar today and watch the game. I was tired of getting drunk on Sundays at home. Surrounded by Dallas fans but at least that game is fun to watch

And their D smashed those teams, our Offense isn't struggling, its non existent. Those teams you listed are at least 1 tier above us if not two