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The video was fairly clear in stating that Bryant reached out for the meeting and that the Panthers are not interested in adding another WR. I can understand frustration over the last 8yrs of losing, but this was just sports media trying to ragebait.

Looks like he just mentioned a conversation with Jim Caldwell. There's nothing of substance otherwise. But hey, don't let that stop the misery! Some of y'all do realize that just clicking and reading will save you more time than immediately having an emotional response... right?

Having to get to page two and get passed anti-Bryce/Morgan/Tepper posts just to get meaningful info is dumb as poo. Thank you so much for doing the legwork and finding out who the replacement is. For those that are also interested in looking further into Winston's background instead of crying, here:

Yes, they do. https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/21/nfl-films-granting-new-york-giants-final-say-all-hard-knocks-edits/

After overperforming in 2023, the Carolina Panthers' defense is once again being asked to do more with seemingly less. The same defense that was ranked #4 in average yards allowed per game (293.9) also happened to be ranked dead last in sacks (27) and hurries (18). How did the new front office decide to approach this group? By trading away the defense's best player (who also accounted for a third of the team's sacks), opting to not bring back a second rounder they had developed, and also didn't retain a veteran day three selection that had been with the team since 2018. To fill the voids created on the edges the team went and signed a pair of former Gamecocks (one of them being a former #1 overall pick) and a former first rounder that hasn't caught on yet in the league. On paper, it's understandably difficult for Panthers' faithful to believe that the names being brought in are going to be an improvement over what just left. However, on that piece of paper is a few data points that show that the team just might have improved the pass rush. Below are two tables: one showing how many snaps a player averaged before registering the corresponding stat, and the other showing a comparison between two starter groups. Before we leap right into the starters, let's take a quick glance at the rotation. DJ Johnson and Amare Barno are returning depth pieces that are still developing. Johnson was likely going to be a three-year project, regardless of his age, and Barno was going to have to make an impact on special teams if he wanted to maintain a roster spot. Both showed minor flashes last season, Johnson with his play strength and ability to set the edge while Barno showed his speed and motor. The veteran rotational piece from last season's unit, Panthers' former fourth-rounder Marquis Haynes Jr, has been replaced by K'Lavon Chaisson who the Jaguars took at #20 in the 2020 draft. The 30yr old Haynes was oft-injured in 2023 with back and hip issues until a scary head injury in late December 2023. In his place the Panthers are hoping that the 24yr old LSU-product with an elite athletic profile will be able to provide some extra burst. Haynes was productive against the run, tackling runners behind the line almost twice as often as Chaisson, but in 142 snaps he failed to register a single hurry while Chaisson ironically averaged a hurry every 142 snaps. Chaisson also hit the QB nearly twice as often as Haynes did, and perhaps most importantly to Dan Morgan (who talked about needing to get opposing QBs on the ground), he knocked the QB down more often than any of the six players that we're looking at while not missing a tackle. We can see pretty clearly here that the pass rush numbers for Chaisson are better than Haynes', but Haynes was solid against the run. Chaisson not missing any tackles provides some relief/hope that he can improve there. I think that at this point, we're all expecting the Jadaveon Clowney vs. Brian Burns comparison along with DJ Wonnum vs. Yetur Gross-Matos, but I'm going to do something a little bit different and compare them together (Clowney/Wonnum vs. Burns/YGM). With that said... a lot of the numbers look to be essentially the same. The biggest differences we see immediately is that Burns + YGM were getting ballcarriers down behind the line almost twice as often, but otherwise like the Chaisson vs. Haynes comparison we can see that these guys appear to perform mostly the same against the run. Where we do see the improvement though is in the pass rush numbers. Not only did Clowney/Wonnum sack the QB more often, they hurried opposing teams' passers much more often Burns/YGM. We can also see a relevant difference between pass deflections and forced fumbles as well. This is going to be very important for Evero's defense that uses disguised coverages to buy the rush an extra half of a second to get there. More PDs, sacks, and hurries means more forced throws. More forced throws means less accurate throws and more hurried decisions... two important ingredients for creating interceptions. Perhaps the biggest question mark this upcoming season is whether or not these guys can stay healthy. Clowney is getting longer in the tooth, Wonnum is coming off of a torn quadricep that has kept him sidelined during the offseason, and Chaisson has lost two of the previous four seasons to injuries (torn ACL in 2021, torn meniscus in 2022). At least they won't withhold effort because they're afraid of getting hurt? Clowney and Wonnum are both signed through 2025, but both deals are set-up to allow the Panthers' to not be tied down to them should their performance this season lead to concerns for 2025. tldr; the pass rush statistically improved by swapping Burns/Gross-Matos/Haynes for Clowney/Wonnum/Chaisson. Hurray!

Surprised that there was so much discussion about the Teppers but nothing about Morgan saying when the DBs started coming off of the board that they had to shift strategies. This was between the Brooks + Wallace selections. The DBs that went between Brooks + Wallace were... 2.15 (#47) - NYG - Tyler Nubin, S, Minnesota 2.18 (#50) - WAS - Mike Sainristil, CB, Michigan 2.26 (#58) - GB - Javon Bullard, S, Georgia 2.28 (#60) - BUF - Cole Bishop, S, Utah 2.29 (#61) - DET - Ennis Rakestraw Jr, CB, Missouri 2.32 (#64) - SF - Renardo Green, CB, Florida State 3.6 (#70) - NYG - Andru Phillips, CB, Kentucky I think that the team was targeting Sainristil or Phillips based off of pre-draft chatter + scouting profiles. The fact that they got Chau Smith-Wade later on and not a safety leads me to believe that it was definitely a CB, likely a nickel. Sainristil especially fits that mold, plus him saying that the Panthers said they might take him in the second round.

But Ricky... that 12sec of Nicole Tepper idly chit-chatting with Dan Morgan was really her meddling so that they'd draft the player she thinks gives the best hugs!! le sigh

Forgot the table showing the mean, median, and mode for each stat along with Bryce's and where it ranks compared to the other 18 QBs.

"Bryce Young did not have a good rookie season compared to other QBs selected #1 overall. My eyes say so." But... why don't the facts support this? WOA THERE NOW! Whether you're a Stroud Boy sitting down and idling by or a devout member of BrySIS, I come in peace. The purpose of this write-up is to explore the validity of a common complaint echoed by disgruntled Panthers fans. This isn't proving that Bryce Young is without fault for 2023-2024. It isn't demanding that everybody only cheer for him and never criticize. Hell, it isn't even a "Bryce is good" post. It is just a statistical look at BY9's rookie season compared to other QBs taken at #1 overall. A quick note on methodology: All of the data was pulled from Pro-Football-Reference.com, which did not have advanced stats for any QB entering the league before 2017 (Hurries, Hits, Pressures, Pressure %, Drops, and Drop %). Going back to 2000, there have been 18 QBs selected #1 overall . Blacked out boxes are for missing/invalid data. Below is the comparison: Perhaps the only thing that Panthers fans can agree on is that, despite fears regarding his size, Bryce Young can take the punishment that an NFL defense can dish out over the course of a season. While he did miss one game, the only QB that's started more games their rookie season is Trevor Lawrence. This was in spite of BY9 being sacked, hurried, hit, and pressured more than any other rookie since 2000 except David Carr (who is also #1 for fumbles and fumbles lost, where as Bryce is #2 in both of those categories). The one stat that Young did lead in was pressure percentage... No other QB in the last 25 years has been pressured more during their rookie campaign than Bryce Young. Even with all of that working against him, his body still held up. This isn't anything new to anybody with a functioning set of eyes. Even people that think Bryce should still order from the kid's menu will admit that having eight different left guards and nine different right guards is probably going to make an already difficult situation for a rookie more difficult. This is where mobility helps bails teams out, and an additional area of concern for detractors. We won't see Young doing the same thing we saw Cam do such as carrying a defensive lineman downfield on his back or steamrolling a defensive back into the dirt. We did see him scramble though enough to put up the 7th highest rushing yards for a QB selected at #1 since 2000. Also not new to fans was the underperformance of the weapons fielded by the team last season. Scheme, playcalling, and inability to separate have been beaten to death but what if I told you that the group also had the third most drops for the third highest drop percentage out of all other teams supporting a #1 rookie QB? To say that the entire offense surrounding Bryce failed him is an understatement, and it reflects in the stats. With that context in mind, let's dive into the passing stats... Completions: 5th (315) Attempts: 6th (527) Completion %: 7th (59.8%) Passing Yards: 9th (2,877) Passing TDs: 11th (#11) INTs: 12th (10) Having the fifth most completions, sixth most attempts, seventh highest completion percentage, and ninth most passing yards all place Bryce Young in the top half of the sample group. He was also 12th in INTs, meaning that despite the constant duress he was under while trying to find an open target that Bryce was not turning the ball over as frequently as other QBs did their rookie year. Being 11th in passing TDs is frustrating, but it's hard to get into the redzone with all of the aforementioned issues as well as the not-so-silent drive killer: penalties. Carolina was #4 in the league this past season for pre-snap penalties with 45. That means that every game had two to three false start penalties. In 2022, teams averaged 10.9 drives per game. If the same holds true for 2023, the Panthers averaging over ~2.64 false starts a game means that 25% of their offensive drives are being marched back five yards. Are these all just excuses in the end and Bryce will never be able to contend for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title? Maybe. Will it make some fans any less insufferable? Definitely not. What it will do though is help make the last two hours of a three hour meeting go by much, much faster. Hope y'all have been well. Keep Pounding!

Must have been Jarius Wright. They wore 13 after KB.

Been hella busy so I didn't get to finish and write up a summary until today. Funchess and Jalen got to know each other when they were both in IND as new guys after being familiar with each other from their time in the NFC South against one another. Funchess was a 3-sport athlete in HS: football, basketball, and track. Started out as a tight end and a linebacker. When he went to Michigan, he was originally classified as an athlete and played all over the place. Sophomore year was when he started focusing in more on being a wide receiver. The first thing that Funchess says to Jalen every time they meet up is, "Hey... you know I got drafted ahead of you, right?" (Funchess went 41, Collins went 42) Has family outside of Durham in Mebane, NC so he knew about the Panthers, Cam, and KB (who he knew through Jameis Winston). Midway through the 2015 season they knew they had something special going. Lots of beloved names being dropped from that team. Everything lined up that season: practice performance, flights on time, etc. Big time family type of atmosphere that was due to Ron Rivera. 2k was the video game of choice for players that year. DB pointed out that all of their guests that have played in the Super Bowl have lost the Super Bowl, starting out with JC who had the worst loss of all. The week of the Super Bowl was very different from what players were used to in season. The schedule they've had all season gets changed up and if a player hasn't experienced it before it throws them off due to having all of the extra stuff. Media folks that they got parked in front of from around the world would try to get a rise out of them with their questions. Funchess claimed that he never had a welcome to the NFL moment, even against Luke, TD, and Shaq. Players looked out for each other in practice. DB brought up Rashaan Gaulden hitting KB during camp when it wasn't a live drill. Funchess seemed to not care for Gaulden, said he did it during spring too. They said Gaulden was one of those "can't get right" players. They all agreed that there's always one guy in camp like that, but that the coaches have to get them out of there otherwise they're going to just hurt teammates. Funchess went to IND because he wanted to play with Luck, but Luck only practiced 2 - 3 times before the eventual retirement. Had no idea that retirement was coming. (DB pointed out that Luck never lost to the Titans). Fans in the stands were asking players on the bench if Luck was going to retire when they were still in the 4th quarter, and that's how players found out what was about to happen. Showed a clip of Funchess catching a TD on Collins in training camp 1-on-1s and roasted the latter for it. Always knew he was going to play basketball after he retired from the NFL. Was playing with Michael Beasley. Got to play with a bunch of folks in the TBT tournament before going to the Philippines where he made his pro basketball debut. Had tried out with two teams over in Japan and was impressed with their love of the game. Basketball is crazy popular in the Philippines, so a lot of the players that were coming in from the outside were big guys like you'd expect them to be. Has some more try outs coming up and then in the summer has some 3-on-3s before going overseas to the Olympic trials. Also tried out for a few G League teams including the Clippers'. Funchess is an anime fan. All-time favourite is Naruto. Also watched Bleach, My Hero Academia, Hunter x Hunter, Demon Slayer, and just started One Piece (which is Jalen's #1). Him and Jalen are fans, DB and King are not. Talked about the Madden check (which rookies don't get) but still have to go to the PA meeting. Funchess spent his on his grandfather. Took him fishing and bought him some stuff. Was the first guest on the show that spent his Madden check responsibly. KJ Hamlin had Funchess come out to Denver to break a world record for catching a pass from a helicopter that Gronkowski had set the record for the year before (and he did it in slides, which according to Jalen he always wears). Was always a better basketball player than football player, so his family was surprised when he went football full time. Lou Young was the defensive back that gave him the most trouble. Lou's doing comedy now (he's been on Cam's show a time or two). Otherwise, feels that at 6'4" 235lbs with a 4.4 forty that he wasn't ever really pressed by an opponent. Oklahoma Drill: Cam vs. Luke. Funchess said Luke at first thinking it was about an actual oklahoma drill, then when they clarified he picked Cam. Then they all started talking about how Luke was calling out the opponent's plays and how smart he is. Didn't have any crazy stories about Luke, called him a stand-up Captain America type of guy. Would call guards pulling. Watched a few clips and had a laugh at some of the stuff that was going on in them. Some basketball and a guy that got an LV face tattoo. Oklahoma Drill: Eminem vs. Big Sean. Picked neither, acknowledged Eminem's impact but said he runs with folks from both circles. Did the long jump and 200m in track Viewer mail segment. Talked about the recent hip drop tackle controversy. Everyone said it's just a tackle and that it's a part of football. Had never heard it referred to as a "hip drop" until recently. Update on the merch store

Was a rough season, but we had to go through 2001 to get to 2003 and 2010 to get to 2015. Here's to hoping that the third time is the charm and 2023 leads to a Super Bowl dub! ... "If wE gEt A dIffErEnt qb thEn wE mIght" Beat you to it. Now post something worthwhile.

Sam Howell fans in shambles rn

Folks were flagging. Said shitposter (talking about @LinvilleGorge so that there's no confusion) has made it clear that they don't act on reports if they don't like the person submitting them. I mean, there was a thread this week with the opening post attacking Mr. Scot that LG participated in. Having differing opinions about football is one thing, but directly encouraging a toxic environment and trying to blame it on the people that don't care for it like he and others have done ain't it. fwiw I appreciate efforts by yourself, Ricky, and rayzor despite life events and the state of the team. Y'all consistently show an attempt to truly understand whatever perspectives are involved in a situation before handling it.

The board is garbage and it isn't because the team is losing. Active moderators have made it abundantly clear that we're not allowed to discuss the Panthers without whining, derailing threads, or making little zingers about BY9. Maybe holding shitposters accountable would bring the clicks back, but that'd require the biggest shitposter to be demodded. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The tougher team won!!!

WE HAD AN OFFENSE FOR THE FINAL DRIVE AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!

All of the copium from the Texans and Bears fans in this thread is delicious

AND A DUB NOW TAKE IT TO THE TONSILS

You're absolutely right. It makes zero sense to remain on the Huddle if somebody wants to actually discuss football instead of scapegoating a rookie QB.

ICE YOUNG HATERS CAN SUCK IT LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

Should have listened to myself just minutes prior to posting this topic