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Just put the rage addicted trolls on ignore. They'll eventually type themselves out or into a corner. Back to CMC being CMC

Whenever LB play comes up, folks disparage Shaq's play. Some will try to slide in that "He's not worth his contract," line but will also follow that up with claiming that he's just a guy rather than a solid starter (or encourage a false narrative such as his alleged lacking in coverage). He could not be worth top 5 LB money but still be a really solid player. Spending time trying to discuss why he shouldn't have gotten paid so much from one of the worst GMs in the league when it came to contracts ignores who the real issue is there: the guy that offered him the contract. it's right up there with folks that claimed CMC was at best a slot WR so he shouldn't have been drafted where he was. I've said what I've said in regards to Shaq tho, and I don't want that to distract any more than it already has from how much Jermaine Carter has improved. The dude played in only 7 games compared to Whitehead's 9 but Carter Jr put up just 5 tackles less while also matching stats in pass deflections, fumble recoveries, AND had two TFLs compared to Tahir's 0. The man outplayed another with 6yrs more pro experience.

Putting bad faith posters on ignore is the money move

What a FILTHY route omg

Shaq most often lines up at the WLB position which is often responsible for the slot. The SLB is who usually covers TEs. He was selected to be the heir to TD's role, and spent a lot of time as the Buffalo nickel tasked with covering slot WRs during his rookie season. He only allowed 1 TD last season on 76 targets with an average depth of target being under 4yds. The team played a LOT of zone coverage in order to protect their weak DBs and pass rush, which leaves a LOT on the LBs (even more when we consider how much of a non-factor Whitehead was). Some quick stats to show this: When we look at the data, we can see why avg DOT vs. Shaq was under 4yds as the team was often having him drop back into zone coverage, meaning receivers settling in the soft spot beneath the zone. However, Shaq was also only 3 tackles behind Jeremy Chinn (114 vs. 117) but with substantially less missed tackles (8 (6.6%) vs. 15 (%11.4)). They weren't getting passed him too often. The 90.7 passer rating when targeting him was 5th best on the team last year behind Donte, Roy, Haynes, and Hartsfield. To put that into further perspective, those 5 players combined were targeted only 8 more times than Shaq was. Considering that the two back-up DL and Hartsfield combined for less total defensive snaps than Shaq (849 vs. 1031), those numbers start to look even more impressive. Add in the variables such as a brand new defense + staff, youth movement, having to get guys in position, etc shows that Shaq is an asset regardless of how some folks might feel about his contract numbers (which they try to defend by downplaying Shaq rather than the dude responsible for awful contracts: Hurney). While he failed to get a pick last year, that's more due to the play calling (heavy zone usage) than it is Shaq lacking especially since only 5 defenders last year got an INT with only Donte having more than 1. Shaq's 5 PDs tied with Chinn for 3rd best on the team behind Donte + Rasul. Shaq and Chinn also tied for 2nd in forced fumbles behind Burns (bah gawd Jeremy Chinn is friggin amazing). Personally, I cannot WAIT for the revamped secondary and pass rush to get out there with an even deeper LB group. Burns, Chinn, Shaq, Horn, Brown, Abouye, and Donte? Sprinkle in Carter, Perryman, YGM, and DaQuan? That defense is going to get off the damn field on 3rd down in 2021!

Glad to see Carter developing well. He'll be an important contributor if Perryman can't stay healthy. Sad to still see Shaq slander, but people also thought that WW84 was a good movie so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Zylstra was one of the better special teams contributors last season. Really wanna see Hartsfield & STO3 stick. Greg Little & Will Grier just aren't NFL-calibre players.

It's literally the best.

So... about that...

I know some of y'all ain't coming in here lying about wanting Montez Sweat when in actuality you were bitching non-stop about not being able to draft an impactful pass rusher at #16

Despite it being the franchise tag, $13.75M for Taylor Moton is great value. He could easily be making the same if not more than Lane Johnson (~$17.85M). AJ Abouye and Denzel Perryman's contracts are INSANE value. $2.2M this season for AJ and $4.7M next? Ok. $1.99M this season for Denzel Perryman and $4M for next year? Yes pls. Both of them have low cost outs? DONGERS UP Reddick, Arnold, and DaQuan's are honourable mentions. If Elflein shows out and can be the center of the future, him as well

I was looking to make a Chinn pun somehow and absolutely hate that I missed this most obvious of options. Thank you for helping me keep my Chinn up.

@ZodAny particular player(s) that caught your eye from how much they've improved? Out of Pride Jr, STO3, Taylor, Melvin, and Hartsfield who all do you think has the best chance to snag a spot on the roster behind Jaycee, Donte, and Abouye? How did Sam Franklin look, if he caught your eye at all? After reading up on him when the team initially signed him last year, I expected somebody that they'd try to develop into Chinn-lite while contributing on ST. He played DB at Temple for his first two years, started at the nickel his Jr season, and started at LB his senior season (which was where he was listed during his rookie stint last year). The roster on the Panthers' site has him listed as a safety currently.

I will never understand why the Huddle refuses to acknowledge that Shaq Thompson is a solid LB. It's like they still want him to be Luke or TD instead of appreciating what he does for the team (like not missing tackles: only YGM + Corn Elder had a lower missed tackle %). Hopefully Perryman can stay healthy. I think that'll be the biggest factor for the starters.

Shaq Thompson threads are the best threads to see who doesn't know poo about football.

DJ Moore Robby Anderson Terrace Marshall Jr Shi Smith David Moore Brandon Zylstra (ST) Stash the two next two best WR prospects on the practice squad L A W D

I am personally a huge fan of giphys and reaction memes. Case in point

With the way Huddlers stay dogging Teddy he must have been raw dogging y'alls wives, girlfriends, sisters, mothers, and mistresses. Best of luck to him in Denver. We're sons of Sam this coming season tho.

In that same call he told her, "Look at daddy in all the Panthers gear." He called his momma instead of his daddy because Joe Horn was there at the stadium with Jaycee.

Was an AWESOME watch. Incredibly well done, lots of surprising insight & access, and just all around excellent content.

I prefer the Spotrac UI

High: Jeremy Chinn. I've been waiting for the Panthers to have impact player at the safety position ever since the long lost days of Mike Minter. Not only is Jeremy Chinn an athletic freak, he's incredible driven and appears to desire to be greater than great. He's doing all of the right things so far, including an explosive rookie season. I can't wait to see how he looks at his natural position on the back end. Low: Troy Pride Jr. If there was a rookie starter that looked the part of a rookie last season, it was Troy Pride Jr. While this was understandable given the tempered expectations for a 4th round selection further complicated by a COVID-19 impacted offseason and a new coaching staff also getting acclimated to the NFL, Pride was clearly in over his head during his 529 snaps where he piled up just 2 pass deflections and 42 tackles. Given the disappointment that was Eli Apple and the toe turf that plagued Donte Jackson last season, it wasn't exactly like Troy was set up for success during his first year. Hopefully with the addition of Jaycee Horn and AJ Abouye, Pride and STO3 will get a year to truly develop should they make the team. Fence: David Moore. The other Moore declined a little bit last season, and with the additions of Terrace Marshall Jr & Shi Smith in the draft that makes three (possibly four) roster spots filled at WR. Brandon Zylstra is a valued member of the special teams, so another spot will likely go to him. Should both of the draft picks make the roster, that leaves Omar Bayless, Micah Simon, Keith Kirkwood, Marken Michel, Ishmael Hyman, and Ventell Bryant to compete with the other Moore. With the team seemingly in Year 0.5 of the rebuild, they might opt to go with a developmental youth prospect over the veteran presence in Moore (especially since Robby Anderson already fulfills that veteran role). Kirkwood and Bayless could beat Moore out for that spot based on those factors, but the team could also opt to roll with 5 WRs if they feel confident in the current group.

A good friend of mine that owns a couple of restaurants in Charlotte lost his 6yr old daughter last year from the same issue that TJ Olsen currently suffers from. Fingers crossed for the Olsen & Yang families.

Projected starters: Moton (RT), Paradis (C), Miller (RG), Elflein (LG) Christensen, Erving, Scott are all not only competing for LT but have enough position flexibility to make the roster. Inject more youth with Deonte Brown + David Moore while keeping Dennis Daley over Greg Little due to aforementioned position flexibility. I'm not so much excited for this year's OL as much as I am the following season's. I'm excited to see Christensen, Moore, Elflein, Brown, Moton if things pan out