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Assistant special teams coach Darren Bates returned to his podcast, Raw Room, and spent ~15min early in the episode reviewing the Panthers' season. Panthers' portion starts at the timestamp. For folks that have problems with XL's accent (or accents in general), put on closed captions because DB's Memphis accent is probably going to beat the dog poo out of you.

I believe it Was wanting so bad for Mike Green to be sitting there at 45 for the Panthers to trade up for

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Hell yes all day to Jalon Walker Alfred Collins looks rather beastly too. Might be the route to go... I don't see a solid pass rusher falling to wherever the Rams end the season, so unless they're confident they can trade back up into the top 45 I would be very okay with those two picks. Thinking about how nasty Walker/Wallace will be as a tandem in a year or two... ooh wee mayne

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Icky earning that second contract

Blame Nicole?

Couldn't agree more re: offensive depth. Every starter on the OL this season missed time and yet the unit still performed above average thanks to guys like Cade Mays and Brady Christensen filling in. Sounds like Brady is going to search for starter money somewhere else (awesome for him and his family if they get it!), but bringing back Cade Mays and finding another high quality sixth man would be an excellent start. Then there's the question re: Corbett to answer as well. WR room is going to need bodies for sure since only Legette, Coker, and Thielen are under contract for next season. TE room as well since Sanders is the only one under contract (though Matthews did just sign on for next season). And finally, what to do with QB2? It's nice to be excited about an offseason that can build upon the previous season again.

Gotta give them credit: they've at least updated some of their narratives From: "He's too small to play in the NFL and will die on the field" Fair to believe he'd get beat up as an outlier on the smaller side for pro NFL QBs, but after surviving what was then the second (now third) most times a rookie QB was sacked in a season and only missing one game due to an OL falling on his ankle (something that effectively ended Matt Corral's time with the team), I think that most reasonable folks can agree that this is no longer the red flag that it was once waved as. To: "His arm is too weak to throw passed the line of scrimmage" Again, being fair to the spirit of the argument: Bryce's deep ball is not the best in the league. It also isn't the worst, but he rarely had opportunities to show that he has an NFL caliber arm in his rookie season considering how much duress he was under due to the conditions of the offense surrounding him. This season since returning from benching and learning to trust the guys in front of him, Bryce has shown that he can and will throw deep in the NFL. From: "He'll never be a starting QB in the NFL" Given how poorly Bryce played last season, this was a difficult narrative to take in good faith because people that know ball could clearly see the poo show that the Panthers were with all of those all-star cooks in the kitchen, injuries across the OL, and underperformance by most of the players brought in to supposedly improve the team. However, the way those first two games of the season played out in Year 2... it looked like Bryce might already be broken before he had a chance to develop into a true NFL starter. Then he came back from his benching and looked like the prospect from Bama that scouts had fallen in love with despite his measurables. To: "He'll never be a top 10 - 20 QB" Given the assets traded for him, it's fair to demand that Young show that he could be a top level passer in the NFL. With everything invested into going and getting him, that pick needed to more than pan out. Similar to the starting QB take, it was fair given his first two weeks of the season to assume that he was broken (or for some, proven to be exactly who they thought he was). But just make sure you're prepared for all of the data points and charts showing that he might have arrived. From: "You have to pay any price to trade up to the highest pick possible in order to draft a franchise QB." We all understand that the #1 overall pick means that their team gets first dibs and are able to get their guy, and that any pick after that is one more chance for that player to not be available when the team takes him... but there was a lot of folks that pointed out that rookie QBs are known to struggle more than they are to take off from day 1. There's also the asset drain being undertaken in order to get one player instead of multiple. It goes on and on. This, tbh, is just something that folks will be in separate camps over and that's ok. To: "He'll never be worth what we traded for him" Look... I can't address this one in good faith because the folks saying it, from what I've seen, are the same ones that were pounding the "pay any price to move up" drum. Only problem now is that the guy they wanted wasn't the guy that the team wanted.

If the team is able to maintain some continuity with the OL + young guys avoid sophomore slumps, then the offense is going to be in a good place. Big question will be how long does it take to address the defense and what else becomes an issue during that time?

Re-watching the Georgia defense against Texas (both times), GT, Bama, Miss St, and ND specifically to watch Starks, Walker, and Williams and as much as I wanted to Williams to pop... it's been all Jalon Walker and Malaki Starks who keep jumping out. Williams also seems to not be on the field on obvious run downs, so that's something to keep in mind watching the rest. Just looking at the stat sheet, he did enough, but I was hoping to see more. I know he was battling injuries (one of them being an ankle iirc, will have to check), so I'm keeping that in mind.

The amount of money Diontae lost after finding ways to not make it work with Lamar + CJ is insane. Can't hold his time with Bryce against him given how bad Bryce played weeks 1 + 2, but to fail with Lamar and CJ in the same season...? Big yikes.

I was explicitly told that CJ would elevate DJ...

Ope, the gang is getting back together. re: Cam's rookie season, let's please stop pretending that Cam came in and did things solo. An OL of Gross/Wharton/Kalil/Hangartner/Bell (Otah went down after the first 4 games)? Who out here really believes that an OL of Ekwonu/Zavala/Bozeman/Jensen/Moton was better? Sanders/Hubbard/Hurst/Tremble/Chark/Mingo/AT is on par with Double Trouble, Olsen, Shockey, and Agent 89? Cam was excellent and worth the #1 overall pick. We don't need to lie on his teammates just to continue whatever hate is still held on to for Bryce.

TIL that wins are a QB stat that they are solely responsible for

Never stopped believing in him, but was definitely concerned after those first two games. Nice to be able to root for the kid and not be trolled by the Bryce haters after the season ended.

With how many miscommunications we saw from the secondary just trying to run simple cover 3 zone looks more than 60% of the time, yea... Watts was a likely candidate to be let go. He was the OLB coach in Denver previously. Lukabu and Maffei were a bit surprising. Lukabu was dealing with injuries to his group (LBs). Wondering if this was an issue similar to Watts where guys were just making too many mistakes running simple concepts. Maffei I couldn't even begin to figure out what. Could also just be three other guys out there that are preferred?

Seconded. Dude kept everything that bothered him to what he was seeing on the field and didn't gaslight himself (nor others) when he did/didn't see it. No crow necessary, only props.

Canales and Idzik both having backgrounds as WR coaches makes me hope that they can work some magic for the young receiving group. :3

Cade played surprisingly well. I think he's earned another contract, though the team should definitely look to make sure there's depth.

"brycE cAn't thrOw dEEp"