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I hear you, but even you were saying Howell and maybe Willis were above Pickett even after all of those established mock drafters and community writers. DJ's co-worker, Chad Reuter of NFL.com, also had Corral going #6 to Carolina, Ridder going to PIT @ #12, and Howell going to TEN @ #14: link Which all supports my original point that it is way too early to assume that all of the top QB prospects will be unavailable at #9. If we want to assume that the top 2 are gone, that's fair, but that could also change based on how teams address their QB position in free agency when it begins in March.

Post quoting an Observer article pointing out the possibility of Ridder going at the end of the first. There are other examples out there showing Corral and Howell being discussed as potential late 1st rounders, especially with Howell (some here even considered him QB1 in the class). Malik not going in the 1st was a huge shock here after all of the clamoring during the offseason.

That's normal for this time of year, especially since it's before free agency and the veteran QB carousel has gotten up to full speed. Last season, we were all told that Kenny Pickett, Malik Willis, Sam Howell, Desmond Ridder, and possibly even Matt Corral would be gone in the first round. Pickett ended up being the only QB selected in the 1st round at #20. Corral, Willis, and Ridder all went in the 3rd and Howell in the 5th. In 2021, we were told that all 5 QBs would be gone within the first 5 picks. 3 went 1-2-3 (which, iirc, is only the second time that happened during the modern draft), but Fields lasted to #11 and Jones to #15. 2020 was the year of Burrow, Tua, and Herbert. While we famously missed out on Herbert by one game, a Super Bowl-bound Jalen Hurts was drafted in the 2nd round. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a "You don't have to find a QB in the 1st round," post. I'm just attempting to highlight how at this time of year, as fans, we get googly-eyed over any prospect that isn't on the team and the FOMO (fear of missing out) becomes almost unbearable. I also think that folks tend to forget that a lot of teams, because they spend the most money on their first round selections, want to get an impact starter for a position that will also help them save money. It's one of the reasons why we don't see centers taken often in the 1st (much to my dismay), because contractually you end up saving next to nothing if you get a center in the 1st when comparing them to average second contracts. If a team is in the right position (or desperate enough), there's always the potential gamble, but for the most part you're going to see guys that can immediately start go early. A franchise QB is the apple of every team's eye, but if they're not ready to start they had better have some damn impressive tape to justify the selection. Nobody wants a guy to sit and learn unless they can afford it.

I'm reading that we're going to get Quenton Johnston in the 1st and Max Duggan in the 4th because I crave chaos.

No doubt, but it's fun to read the tea leaves sometimes. Even if they're just making tea.

Very interesting... Kunkel: "I think it's fair to say years ago you would just pluck any talent, like, this roster needed any talent anywhere. Now is it fair to say that you can pluck specific guys for specific positions because you're kind of fine tuning now?" Fitterer: "There's always certain value to a player at the position, but at this point, um, if you know you can move back and maybe pick up a receiver or a linebacker, you can do that. Or if you want to take the picks that you have and move up, you know, and take a quarterback, you can do that. So we're in a position, we're flexible. Uh, we haven't started the process yet of free agency or the draft. Our scouts have been getting all of the information, uh, you know over the next couple of weeks and we'll start building that board and developing a plan." @Ivan The Awesome Anything you notice body language wise during that part? I remember the CJ Henderson write up that you did. I thought it seemed to lean towards trading back and acquiring pieces.

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Definitely has made some good moves, and the bad ones thus far haven't seemed to set the franchise back any significant amount of time (unless the stickler meeseeks want to forecast what they think a Brian Burns trade would have resulted in). Not the biggest fan of the Sam Darnold trade, but it's hard to look at some of the moves made and not smell Matt Rhule wafting from them.

Seeing posters invalidate arguments for Corral that they turn around and use in support of Stroud is adorable.

Really excited for the possibility of Brian Johnson as the OC. Sounds like he was the target whether or not it was Wilks or Reich. I wonder who they'll target for QB coach if they opt to move on from Sean Ryan.

I've found that most of the beat writers, reporters, insiders, etc are on Twitter now. I've got a list that I click on every now and then to catch up on Panthers-related news and discussions. As far as discussions... I will politely disagree there. Discussions would require that folks listen to understand rather than listen to respond. At this point I think that I still click on the Huddle out of a weird addiction or nostalgia. Maybe both? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Reddit is better

As a QB coach? Absolutely. As an OC? I'd rather see what Brian Johnson can do.

All of that is addressed in the OP.

Credit goes to the Panthers subreddit and the Honest NFL account on Twitter: Google Drive direct link: CLICK HERE So what are we looking at exactly? @TheHonestNFL is a (former?) NFL employee that at one point in time was employed by the Philadelphia Eagles (and according to Zach Hicks' article "Film Room: What Are Triangle Reads in Frank Reich's Offense?" is very knowledgeable on Frank Reich). They post links to playbook concepts with breakdowns such as read order and explanations of route combinations. What's that look like? Here's just one example that you can see by clicking on the Google Drive link: There's also a folder with slides for formations & motions: They don't just cover offense either! Here's a great thread on the Eagles' defensive concepts (where Vic Fangio would be coming from): It's worth noting that this folder is labeled to reflect that it is Doug Pederson's offense, but Frank Reich was Pederson's OC when the Eagles won the Super Bowl and likely took a lot of these plays and concepts with him to Indy. I haven't gotten a chance to go through all of the material yet (have a family function coming up here in 1hr), but if one of the more informed posters here wants to break it down further that'd be fun to catch up on.

"This isn’t just call up your buddies, let’s go to work." After the awful experience that was Matt Rhule and his cronies, that statement from Reich has me at half mast.

As much as I enjoyed Wilks coaching the team, I can't deny that Vic Fangio and Brian Johnson as Reich's coordinators would have had me lean towards hiring him as well. Fangio is a clear upgrade over Holcomb, and I can't think of many outside of one of the Turners that Wilks would have likely targeted to be his OC. Man... this defense with Vic Fangio running it...

Appreciate all that he's done with the team and can't wait for him to get an opportunity to lead again. He's done more than most will ever have to do just to get a shot.

Excited to finally know who the head coach is as well as the next chapter of Panther football. We'll see if this is the offensive coaching hire that fans have clamored for. I'm most eager now, like most fans, to see who he populates his coaching staff with. Fingers, toes, eyes, and ears are crossed that Campen and Tabor are retained. Foreman has an opportunity to stick around, and dare I say Matt Corral has a fair shot? ...Along with any other QBs that Reich deems necessary to bring in, of course. Man... if Vic Fangio signs as the DC... omg... Would it be too much to believe at least until the draft before we have excuses to slip back into madness?

A Colts blogger put together a series of fairly well researched articles on Frank Reich back in 2018 that were still informative today. https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/8/6/17030658/frank-reichs-offense-an-introduction Out of the three that have had second interviews announced, I think Moore is the only candidate that I'm sour on.

Smitty talking up Max Duggan got me like

From the latest "Cut To It" podcast covering the DAL/SF game: I've watched a couple of episodes over the last few weeks and enjoyed them so far. Looking fwd to checking out this one!

I'm good with whoever we get at this point so long as it isn't Moore, but the Cardinals did not allow Wilks to hire his own staff like the Browns allowed Stefanski to when Wilks wasn't retained.

Same re: rotational guy + Clemson's DL. In Henry I see YGM with a higher ceiling and better get off that doesn't cost a 2nd round selection. One thing though is that KJ made splash plays when they mattered, and I'd rather see if he can develop should YGM continue his current progress.

His WRs were consistently bad throughout the season tbh. My wife is a Giants fan, so I got to at least watch her be happy this season. Golloday was a non-factor, Robinson was hurt throughout the season, and they lost Shepard week 3. Darius Slayton (NYG 2019 5th rd) and Richie James (SF 2018 7th rd) did a lot of work for them when it wasn't going to Saquan. Plus they lost Bellinger to the eye injury as well for a good bit. That roster overperformed this season to say the least.