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Post em if you got em. Bootleg Football (I like Brett Kollman's content) just posted up their Panthers episode this morning. They've covered the rest of the division already and will have an NFC South video up later today or tomorrow (if it's not up already). This one was already posted in a thread of its own. Solid video. This one is about half as long as the above. Haven't gotten to start it yet, but included here in case somebody else gets to it and finds it to be pretty good! A sub-10min video for those on the go

A deep run? Going to depend on a lot of luck in regards to injuries plus who the first draw is. Can he get us to the playoffs? The team nearly got there with an offense piloted by Ben McAdoo & Sam Darnold. The coaching staff and QB position have been upgraded, and there's an argument to be made that the defense was upgraded as well (at least from a coaching perspective). The WR room lost it's #1 WR but there's no doubt that the room as a whole has gotten more talented (Thielen, Chark, Marshall, Mingo, and Shenault alone is a solid overall room, nevermind whoever the 6th WR will be). The division is winnable, that much is for certain. The Bucs are tumbling, full stop. The Falcons are hoping to run an offense similar to what Smith did in Tennessee but with Ridder/Robinson rather than Tannehill/Henry, but do they have a defense that can support that type of offensive approach? How the Saints look this season will dictate a lot.

Whatever he needs to play for the coaching staff to feel that he's prepared for the regular season. I'm expecting Corral to get a bulk of the time with Young/Dalton being saved for the regular season, but it will be interesting seeing what all of the QB gurus in the room think is best for a young signal caller.

Playing with Bryce lower than Corral has been brutal

Also worth mentioning that Burns was primarily used a 4-3 DE rather than 3-4 OLB until last season. Having him in his ideal position is going to help tremendously. If the team can find another DL aside from Brown or get another pass rusher to put opposite of Burns this is going to be a dangerous defense.

It really is remarkable how Reddit & Discord realize it but the Huddle is still 50/50 on the situation

In his rookie season, only 5 DTs in the league were double teamed more often Can't find him on the list for his sophomore season (looks like the only Carolina DL that Walder tracked that season was Burns?), but even watching the game he consistently pulled double teams from opposing defenses. Plus, as noted prior, his stats against the run can't be ignored either. EDIT: Did find this from his sophomore season tho. https://www.panthers.com/video/steve-smith-on-derrick-brown-double-team-machine

Dexter Lawrence also has a full season more played than Derrick Brow. Their statistics from their first three seasons are very similar: Derrick Brown Dexter Lawrence +/- Sacks 6 9 -3 Pressures 48 48 0 Hurries 15 17 -2 QB Hits 33 30 3 QB Knockdowns 26 19 7 Tackles for Loss 21 14 7 Pass Deflections 15 5 10 Interceptions 1 0 1 Forced Fumbles 0 2 -2 Over an equal timespan, DLaw has 3 more sacks, 2 more hurries, and 2 more forced fumbles than DBrown. On the flipside, DBrown has 10 more pass deflections, 7 more tackles for loss, 7 more QB knockdowns, 3 more QB hits, and 1 more interception than DLaw. Lawrence might just end up being the best comp to use for Brown's next contract, though Brown might be able to argue that the other had Leonard Williams next to him for the entirety of his career.

Can't help but wonder how many of the folks whining about Brown's sack total have forgotten the old DT addage: "Two on me, someone's free." Fairly important to consider, especially given how Derrick Brown was one of the most often double-teamed defensive linemen in the league the last couple of seasons.

Couldn't be happier for Burns and Brown. Both have performed and deserve to be paid. Was nice to have them on their rookie deals, but thankfully we'll have Bryce, Icky, and Mingo on their rookie deals to offset the upcoming negotiations.

Not sure admitting is the right word there, but no problem bucko. Sometimes we all need to be reminded to not scream into the abyss.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is never going to be "sports and sports only." It's an irrational desire that's only going to lead to frustration and disappointment. Sports aren't some cartoon ostrich that can bury its head in the sand to avoid the same socio-cultural issues that influence it. Don't get me wrong: I'd love to focus more on the strategy, skill, techniques, etc that are on display. Unfortunately, entertainment sells advertising space better than it does education. Engagement is even more important to marketing, and few things create as much engagement as outrage.

Getting baptized by Von Miller was a blessing in disguise. Having Campen there to help breakdown the film afterwards when it could have been another Rhule crony is an even bigger blessing. Couldn't be more excited for Icky and the OL.

I mean... I don't think anybody is expecting him to get 100+ targets this season nor are they expecting him to break off WR screens for 80+ yard TDs. He's definitely going to take a dip in fantasy, but in terms of actual football I'm expecting the team to carve up opposing defenses on 3rd down with option routes thanks to Thielen + Bryce's football IQ.

Oooooooohhhhhhhh maaaaaaaaaaaaaah gaaaaaaaaaaaaawd Watching episode 2 was reaffirming of what many of us thought the purpose of the FA signings shown were for Eps3 I'm only 1min in and hearing the 5 traits learned from Peyton has me ready to go to WAR for Bryce!!

Holy poo

Whether or not TMJ beating a Bengals starter 1v1 for a 21yd TD is indicitive of Baker's play last season is something you're more than welcome to explore on your own. As I said, the point wasn't to attempt to get you to change your mind; it was to point out the misinformation you presented. In that same train of thought, regarding TMJ's stats for the final 6 weeks of the season, looking at Sam Darnold's explains a lot: vs. DEN: 11 completions on 19 attempts (3 targets for TMJ, 6 targets for DJ) vs. SEA: 14 completions on 24 attempts (1 target for TMJ, 3 targets for DJ) vs. PIT: 14 completions on 23 attempts (3 targets for TMJ, 6 targets for DJ) vs. DET: 15 completions on 22 attempts (3 targets for TMJ, 7 targets for DJ) vs. TB: 23 completions on 37 attempts (3 targets for TMJ, 10 targets for DJ) vs. NO: 5 completions on 15 attempts (3 targets for TMJ, 4 targets for DJ) If you want that to mean Sam Darnold didn't like the Christmas present that TMJ got him the year before, have at it. I like to believe that most people would understand that not many players are going to be blowing up the statsheets when they're only targeted 2.7 times a game on average with a QB that's averaging just 13.7 completions on 23.3 attempts. Especially when that was during a season where the league average for passing attempts per game was 33.3.

TMJ was lined up 1-on-1 with Cam Taylor-Britt who was and is the starter in Cinci. To say that the play came against a back-up player of Taylor/Henderson's caliber is misleading. As is pointing to his statline when the gameplan was "Don't make Sam throw the ball" under Wilks. By all means, feel free to doubt as this isn't an attempt to change your mind. I just wanted to make sure that misinformation didn't go unchecked.

Good. Their current stadium is a laughing stock. Hot tubs or not, you know it's bad when their souvenir racks are literally sitting in the middle of the walkways.

With how poorly the team was coached until the regime change and a void at the QB position, I can't help but be impressed by the talent that Fitterer & the scouting department have stocked the squad with. Hurst, Tremble, Thomas, Sullivan, and Ricci is a solid group to go into the season with.

There was 1,442 total snaps under Matt Rhule's regime and 723 under Steve Wilks'. TMJ was on the field for 30.6% of the snaps under Rhule, 81.3% under Wilks. It is very much so accurate to state that TMJ was "hardly on the field" while Rhule was running the team. TMJ's averages per game from his 15 games under Rhule: 29.4 snaps (441 total) 19.8 routes (297 total) 2.3 targets (34 total) TMJ's averages per game from his 12 games under Wilks': 49 snaps (588 total) 22 routes (264 total) 3.6 targets (43 total) To put those numbers into perspective, here are the averages for the other two WRs mentioned under Rhule: Chosen (22 games) 53.9 snaps (1185 total) 36.9 routes (812 total) 5 targets (110 total) DJ (20 games) 55.6 snaps (1112 total) 36.2 routes (723 total) 9.1 targets (182 total)

Thank you for making sure to mention this early in the thread. We regularly see folks apoplectic when discussing the later years of a player's new deal without taking into consideration the regular increases to the salary cap. Can't wait for Burns to be locked down contractually for the next 3 - 5!!

The team invested in Cam Newton having weapons + an offensive line, but due to injuries (along with a couple of misfires evaluation-wise) those position groups were regular points of concern.

Only makes sense with the 17-game season. Surprised this wasn't part of that initial rollout.