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Josh Klein: strong probability Panthers trade out of #39
Icege replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Maybe see if Seattle wants to move up and grab somebody at #39 (510pts)? Take their #52 (380pts) and their #52 (175pts)? Seattle has 10 picks and is trying to run it back with Geno Smith, so they might be willing to move up and grab a second guy that they like if they've got a couple of players they covet when they pick at #37. Would allow the Panthers to move back and take Jack Campbell (Iowa LB) and Tuli Tuipulotu (USC DE). Chicago could be another option. They've got #53 (370pts), #61 (292pts), and #64 (270pts) that they can work with. I imagine Fitterer would want #53 & #64, but he might have to give up a future 4th or 5th to make that happen. They've got 9 picks as well, so they might be willing to give up some capital. -
OFFICIAL: Bryce Young cancels remaining team visits
Icege replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I wonder how many of the Stroud superstans are going to start pretending that they were okay with Young the whole time despite their post history showing otherwise. Less than 2 weeks until it's draft time!!! -
Josh Klein: strong probability Panthers trade out of #39
Icege replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think that Fitterer is definitely eager to move back and recoup some additional draft capital. If he thinks that the guys they've got ranked 25 - 50 are about the same, then I could see him sliding back for sure. -
17 game season with the top two guys being slight to me makes it good to have Corral as QB3. He could also benefit from the coaching upgrades.
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Have been re-watching the last two seasons for Stroud + Young and figured I'd take a stab at creating discussion around "the tape." Going to go through each game and pull three plays that made me question a prospect and three plays that got me excited for them. CJ Stroud vs. Notre Dame (week 1) 3 Questionable Plays 00:06:14 CJ's first pass attempt of the season and he's sacked while staring down JSM. Never read the blitz despite the MLB creeping up and never took his eyes away from where JSM was heading. He had his TE open in the flat for the safe play, but got greedy seeing a potential big gain if he was able to get it to JSM. Ohio State does a good job of cutting the field down to one side for CJ and making the high-mid-low read. 00:37:24 2nd & 9 and down by 3 early in the 2nd quarter at around midfield. Notre Dame runs cover-2 man and the coverage is excellent. Stroud is in the shotgun and drops back about 5 yards more after getting the snap, which is something we've heard about Young doing so noticing it from Stroud caught my attention. What bothered me most about this play though is the forced throw into good coverage when he could have easily taken off and gotten the first down with his legs. Two of the biggest knocks on Stroud are how he's not the best off-script guy and his performance craters while under pressure from the defense. It also makes me curious to see whether or not he has issues on plays that are designed for him to throw on the run. Is it an issue of being off his platform, or is it strictly that he's not a strong improviser? 00:47:54 LT gets beat on the inside and Stroud flicks it out to the check down even though he's got a man coming wide open over the middle and has nothing but green grass to his left. Would have loved to have seen him spin out here and buy time or come back to the middle on his reads rather than staring down JSM. It is worth noting, however, that after this particular play CJ started doing much better when it came to spinning out to avoid pressure and keeping plays alive with his feet. 3 Exciting Plays 00:17:05 This is the type of play that scouts want to see CJ execute while under pressure. Two blitzers are coming and Stroud takes a moment to shift and reset his feet before delivering an absolute dime of a throw to Egbuka's outside shoulder away from the defender. The ball placement alone allowed his WR to avoid being touched and sprint for the score. This is what folks are talking about when they talk about his accuracy and how he puts it out there for his playmakers to grab and go. 01:08:44 I wasn't lying when I said that Stroud started doing much better with keeping plays alive after the play @ 00:47:54. Stroud feels the edge rusher on his back, spins out, and puts the ball right on his man. The throw looks like it was put out there to give his WR the ability to turn upfield for a few more yards, but Ballard's momentum was carrying him out. This is what we want to see more of. 01:36:03 CJ gets a mulligan from the 00:47:54 play as the edge rusher beats the LT inside again. This time, CJ spins away and keeps the play alive long enough for his WR to come back to the boundary to convert the first. This play stood out to me specifically because the play-call was a mesh concept which we have heard again and again that Reich loves to use
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Anthony Richardson Film Breakdown Megathread
Icege replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
I really, really wanted it to be somebody here. -
I like it. We've got Chark, Byrd, and Shi all with speed Thielen + TMJ for possession Shenault for whatever we can do to get the ball in his hands.
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Where do folks keep getting the idea that Young's arm strength is suspect? He doesn't have the howitzer that Richardson and Levis have, but he had no problem throwing accurate deep balls after his shoulder sprain to start October. I've re-watched all of Young's and Stroud's games from the last two seasons and am about to do the same for Levis, and I just don't see reason for the questions that people are raising about Young's arm talent. Seems like just another knock on his size because "he's too small to throw it far."
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It's definitely weird watching what would basically be the Blaine Gabbert fans telling Cam Newton fans that they're less intelligent because their preferred prospect has flaws.
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Anthony Richardson Film Breakdown Megathread
Icege replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
It is kind of wild how the top 4 guys all shook out. Want the guy with the best tape? Young, but there's size concerns. Want the safe pick? Stroud, but there's concern with how he performs when pressured. Want that big time boom potential? Richardson, but he might bust. Want the prototypical build? Levis, but there's some questionable decision-making. All of them are flawed, so folks end up making their decision based on which of those traits they want the most and/or which of those flaws bother them the most. -
Person: Richardson still in the conversation...if we trade down
Icege replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
There's a conversation to be had at the very least if they offer both thirds though. #2 + #65 + #73? Would allow us to recoup the #61 that was traded AND get an extra pick to package with #39 to slide back up into the 1st? Get another starter w/ a bonus year option? I could be convinced... -
Person: Richardson still in the conversation...if we trade down
Icege replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
If the team is able to get Houston's #2 + #12 pick, you make that trade. Pair CJ Stroud w/ JSN or Anthony Richardson with another potential starter? I could live with that. -
Anthony Richardson Film Breakdown Megathread
Icege replied to Ricky Spanish's topic in Carolina Panthers
2022 Florida full games (some condensed!) Week 1: Utah Week 2: Kentucky Week 3: South Florida Week 4: @Tennessee Week 5: Eastern Washington Week 6: Mizzou Week 7: LSU Week 8: Bye Week 9: Georgia (neutral site) Week 10: @Texas A&M Week 11: South Carolina Week 12: @Vanderbilt Week 13: @Florida State Las Vegas Bowl: Oregon State Anthony opted out of Florida's bowl game. -
A person's appearance very much can be an extension of their culture, experience, background, etc.
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I'd argue that trying to eliminate the reality that is our differing backgrounds, cultures, experiences, etc is a lot more harmful to society and proven by recent political ventures we've seen in America, but that's a convo for the Tinderbox.
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The pandemic has made it so that it feels like everything in the last 5 years has taken place within the last 2.
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Play-by-play for the Hornets iirc but I think he was released recently?
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Was genuinely surprised to see the resignation considering how he's moved up within the org during both regimes.
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Because there is a lack of representation in NFL leadership despite a majority of the league being black and the Panthers were just recently in the spotlight with this issue during the Wilks' saga.
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2022 Alabama full games Week 1: Utah State Week 2: @Texas Week 3: Louisiana-Monroe Week 4: Vanderbilt Week 5: @Arkansas Bryce injures his shoulder during the scramble around 38min, comes back and tries to throw it on the next set of downs before having to go to the tent. Week 6: Texas A&M Bryce sat out after spraining his shoulder vs. Arkansas Week 7: @Tennessee Week 8: Mississippi State Week 9: Bye Week 10: @LSU Week 11: @Ole Miss Week 12: Austin Peay Week 13: Auburn Sugar Bowl: Kansas State
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2022 Ohio State full games Week 1: Notre Dame Week 2: Arkansas State Week 3: Toledo Week 4: Wisconsin Week 5: Rutgers Week 6: @Michigan State Week 7: Bye Week 8: Iowa Week 9: @Penn State Week 10: @Northwestern Week 11: Indiana Week 12: @Maryland Week 13: Michigan Peach Bowl: Georgia