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Lemme get Jevon Holland + Trevon Moehrig next pls

omg Milton Williams is happening

This has already been covered. The team ran a lot of soft cover 3 thanks to a talent deficit on defense. Horn did shadow WR1s the season prior and will likely do so again with the right personnel.

They shut him down out of an abundance of caution to end the season, but he essentially put a full season in last year like everybody asked for. Let's keep it honest at least: folks that just want to bitch about how bad the Panthers have been are going to cry about this move the same way they'd cry if Jaycee got paid the same elsewhere.

Folks are so sensitive to being let down that they can't even have fun anymore. Bunny soft. But this is why I say the Huddle would only make this team worse. We'd be sitting here paying some TE9 the vet min to be TE2, letting Jaycee walk over $5M, and other dumb poo.

Jaycee locked down Now to sign another CB, grab two starting safeties, replace Tuttle, and plug whatever holes left in preparation for the draft!

That was last season while running cover 3 due to shite talent If the team grabs two solid safeties this offseason, Jaycee is going back to shadowing a man instead of just locking down a third of the field.

Let's gooooo!!!!!!

Numbers do look similar to Ian Thomas' deal, but a couple of things worth noting: Ian Thomas signed a 3yr/$16.95M extension in 2022 when the cap was $208.2M Tommy Tremble signed a 2yr/$10.5M extension for 2025 when the cap is $279.2M Thomas' average salary of $5.65M accounted for 2.71% of the team's cap Tremble's average salary of $5.25M accounts for 1.88% of the team's cap Thomas got a $5M signing bonus compared to Tremble's $4M Both received $8M in total guarantees The team can free up $3.5M in dead cap next season if the cut Tremble Solid deal. Team paid less than Ian Thomas' contract despite the salary cap going up... that's a dub.

This contract makes him the 22nd highest avg contract among TEs with potential to be top 16. Gotta wonder if folks complaining about this and the Corbett deal just want to be miserable.

That Jaycee contract extension is gonna hit

Hell fuging yea Tommy Good teammate, good blocker, can line up as FB too on some packages. Got himself some cash too!

Running back Corbett/Mays for center? I can dig it.

Not a bad career for a guy that made their living on ST and as a backup LB.

Wooooow

I like how this highlights that one particular player/position is not going to carry a football team to a championship. It's kind of like how folks believe it's a QB... but even Brady needed a defense to keep games manageable. It is a team game in every sense of the classification.

Roseman's luck is unreal... or purposeful. I can't believe the talent that he's had fall to the Eagles the last few drafts. It's one thing to have wheeled and dealed the way he has... but how in the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck does he keep getting GIFTED players!?

Howie Roseman is the Game Genie of GMs. Dude is an actual cheat code, it's so insane.

I'm not denying that being a fan of the Panthers has been downright painful at times, but I don't understand willfully gaslighting ourselves with misrepresentations. We don't need it to be any worse, the team has been embarrassing amounts of ass. Take for example the quoted part + the recent talk about the XL trade: there was clear misrepresentation. The team traded a 5th to move up when it was a 5th flipped to a 6th. Regaring "this sort of move"... the fifth-year bonus option wasn't implemented until 2011 following the CBA (which Panthers fans should definitely remember if they were around then, that time was the big suck imo). The 2024 draft was the first time the team had ever traded up from the second round into the first. This is quite literally the first time that it's happened. Now if we're talking about trading up in general not working out, well... that's why a lot of posters were against moving up from #8 when the team drafted Horn and #6 when they drafted Icky to take a QB. The data shows that it often doesn't pan out. At the same time, if the team wants a guy (or a particular position), there might be times where they just got to move up in order to get him. I'm not saying you gotta believe in the team. It's completely fair to have a wait and see approach... but I don't see the point in assuming the worst until then. It's not like it's going to be any less miserable if it does go bad again.

Kevin Kolb over Greg Olsen all day, amirite?

I get that y'all don't like the XL pick, but let's not act like it was a bad move to have a 5th year option available for him because we gave up a 5th round pick... especially when that's not true. Carolina traded a second (#33) and fifth (#141) for a first (#32) and sixth (#200) from Buffalo. It was just a pick swap... 32 <-> 33 and 200 <-> 141. They essentially gave up on a $1M/yr guy to make sure they're able to keep XL for another year should he pan out. Keeping a possible WR1 for a fifth year vs. picking a special teamer 60 picks earlier... There's arguments for both. Team needs more bodies, but setting up to have a potential WR1 at an affordable cost for another year is the exact Excel magic some in here keep ripping their hair out over the team not doing.

Gotta see what the team does in free agency first! Though looking at this upcoming free agency class does give us some info on what might happen. For example, the TE market is so thin that Tremble is under consideration to be brought back depending on what other teams offer him. Safety, on the other hand, has some really good players out there. There are a bunch of former Pro Bowl WRs also available, though once the top guys are gone the class gets MUCH thinner. I cannot WAIT for all of the activity starting next Monday when the legal tampering period starts.

4 more days until tampering period... 6 more until free agency...

Starting to see the vision now after some highlights... Got Syracuse vs. UNLV, NC State, VT, BC, and Miami queued up for Allen and OSU vs. Oregon (regular season), Nebraska, Indiana, Michigan, and Notre Dame for Williams. I am going to be so sad if I get firebombed with a bunch of tickets today while trying to be a degenerate on the clock.