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Coker! Wait... noooo another penalty T_T

David Moore making something. Jake Luton time.

lmao Coach Bates getting hype

Joe Milton time!!

Chau Smith-Wade vs. Javon Baker!

McLendon

Missed most of the second quarter due to a false alarm @ work, but it looks like I haven't missed much after looking at the box score. Hope it doesn't take NFL+ too long to have the game accessible. Immediately after it finishes airing would be clutch.

D'Shawn Jamison with the almost pick. That's a fine from Xavier Woods incoming!

Was the best player for the Panthers in Q1 imo. Dude is looking really good as a gunner.

Oh no, Crumedy down.

This was a surprisingly helpful visual. Mingo, TMJ, JT, ISM, JMatt, Coker, Christensen, Zavala, Mays, and the RBs are who I'm going to be bouncing between on offense. On defense I'm going to try to keep an eye on everybody but the safeties.

Full list of inactives tonight: RB Raheem Blackshear WR Diontae Johnson RB Miles Sanders DE Jadeveon Clowney CB Jaycee Horn QB Bryce Young CB Troy Hill QB Andy Dalton WR Xavier Legette WR Adam Thielen S Jordan Fuller S Nick Scott RB Jonathon Brooks S Xavier Woods RB Chuba Hubbard OLB Amaré Barno S Sam Franklin Jr. LB Josey Jewell LB Cam Gill G Robert Hunt LB Shaq Thompson C Austin Corbett G Nash Jensen G Damien Lewis T Taylor Moton T Ikem Ekwonu TE Ian Thomas TE Tommy Tremble DE LaBryan Ray DE A'Shawn Robinson DE Derrick Brown OLB D.J. Wonnum DT Shy Tuttle It's very difficult to take some of the posts about hiding one player seriously when 32 of their teammates are also inactive. Looks like Canales is going to use this game to evaluate the depth. Wouldn't be surprised to see the starters get a series or two in the next preseason game though.

The Panthers app works if you're in the region. Panthers.com MIGHT show it? Can always do the free 1 week of Fubo and cancel. That was the only way that I could watch the PVF finals. Worst case scenario, I don't mind setting up a throw away Discord server and streaming for folks that can't access it.

TWO MORE HOURS AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Yes

Lemme check ... From the two pages I read through, maybe? If you've got your region set to a ZIP in the Carolinas you should be able to watch it via regional CBS affiliates.

Out-of-market TV channel: NFL Network Local channel: WBZ-TV CBS Streaming: Sling, Fubo, NFL+, Hulu+ Live If none of those work for you, hmu and I'll slide a link or two your way.

Thanks LCF!! Was just wondering about him last week and got worried because I hadn't seen any updates in the Discord since his last check-in. Hope he recovers well and keeps pounding!

Oh absolutely! If he's got wiggle room to make the call (and can reasonably justify it based on pre/post snap reads), take the shots ALL day. But to go out there, see the field, and still make the decision to immediately target the big play out of rhythm for the simple reason of trying to make himself look like he deserves a roster spot as it was worded... that'd be no bueno imo.

4 more hours until we get to start tho!!!

That we can both agree on.

By the very definition, your attempt to exclusively focus on protection is a strawman. As stated already, the combination of bad protection, lack of separation, poor play design, and poor play calling made life even more difficult for a rookie QB. Nobody could have performed well under those conditions. You're picking strictly one part of that and pointing out that a x3 SB champ and 8yr vet were pressured a similar amount of times played better. You're doing this because think that you can easily defeat that when the actual argument is ALL of those factors made success impossible for any QB. Not just one factor. tldr; nobody has said Bryce played bad just because of the bad protection so your attempt to focus solely on that when comparing a rookie to a x3 SB champ + 8yr vet is a strawman fallacy.

I can't believe that I forgot about this! Very, very interested to see how Smith & Bates get these guys in position to succeed on kickoffs.

Dunc (Unnecessary Bluntness) tweeted something along those lines and it made sense. I can see them giving Bryce reps in the second and third preseason game. If he doesn't get any I might start to be concerned.

Out of all of the receivers, only Adam Thielen had a good one. If the receivers were performing well and Bryce was making them look bad as you're suggesting, this would look a lot different: It is the very definition of a strawman argument because you're attempting to take a rookie QB that had no protection, receivers that could not separate, bad play calling, and bad play design and compare him to a x3 Super Bowl champion and a QB that has been in the league since 2016. It is purposefully sidestepping the fact that the Panthers' weapons were bad and had some of the worst separation in the league. As we can see from the graphic I posted previously, Mahomes' had receivers that had 3.5+ yards of separation. You stated, "if Bryce sustained more drives," as if he was doing this alone. Again, how is a QB supposed to operate when he's being pressured on nearly 25% of his passing attempts and all of his targets save for Adam Thielen have a lower separation average than the league's? It's worth noting that the league average for separation was 2.94yds. The graphic showing Mahomes' targets show that they more than cleared that. Neither him nor Goff played under the conditions that Bryce did, who had to do it during his rookie season. Hell, if you want to compare Goff to Bryce then compare their rookie seasons when the Rams went 0-7 with Goff as the starter. Otherwise... strawman.