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Link to article Panthers offensive MVP Winner: RB Chuba Hubbard (44 votes) Runner-up: QB Bryce young (15 votes) Staff picks: Hubbard (Fowler), Hubbard (Kaye), Hubbard (Zietlow) Panthers defensive MVP Winner: CB Jaycee Horn (27 votes) Runner-up: LB Josey Jewell (17 votes) Staff choices: Jewell (Fowler), Horn (Kaye), Horn (Zietlow) Panthers special teams MVP Winner: TE Feleipe Franks (31 votes) Runner-up: DB Lonnie Johnson (11 votes) Staff picks: Pineiro (Fowler), Rhattigan (Kaye), Franks (Zietlow)

Maaaaan... I had the same experience re: Boone Didn't expect him to set the game on fire but was hoping for some more fun moments. Seeing him get toasted in pass pro brought me back down to earth quick.

His story at South Carolina has been talked about a lot. Lost his mother in 2015 to cancer and then his father to a heart attack in 2018 just two months before HS graduation. We can agree that losing both parents going into your freshman year at college is going to cause some issues. 2019 - Freshman year [QB: Hilinski, Joyner, Bentley] 2020 - COVID [QB: Hill, Doty] 2021 - Scooter accident and other injuries [QB: Noland, Brown, Doty] 2022 - Was behind Antwane Wells Jr (who transferred to Ole Miss this season and will be in the upcoming draft) and Jalen Brooks (drafted by Dallas last year). Was also competing with TE Jaheim Bell (transferred to FSU, drafted by Patriots last year) for touches. [QB: Rattler] 2023 - Breakout year as WR1 [QB: Rattler] Also didn't have competent QB play until his last two seasons.

Thank goodness. As cool as it is to poo on Miles Sanders here, he's leaps and bounds better than Boone + Blackshear.

I'm hoping that's what his level up for this offseason will be: his hands. Though I wouldn't say he's gotten phased out either just taking a brief look at his targets... Curious to see if they'll force the ball to him against the Falcons.

tbh this is the duality that is keeping the board active One side believes that Bryce is getting too much credit, another believes that Bryce is getting too much hate, and then there's a side that just wants to know beyond a shadow of a doubt whether or not he's the guy. The back and forth between the first two provides reading material for the latter's bathroom trips.

Yea, but he's also beating his guy on plays where the ball isn't going to him. His route running is so improved from last year at South Carolina that it's got me downright giddy to see what he adds to his toolbelt this offseason.

I definitely think that he gets too cute with his play calling at times. Talk about establishing the run but after moving the sticks with Chuba he immediately goes five wide on the very next play damn near every time... -_- They seem to be learning and adjusting though as the season progresses, so I'm very curious to see how the staff develops as much as I am the players.

I don't necessarily agree with this because if the Panthers are marching AT, Ladd, and Coker out there then we get to see teams play closer to the line like last season. Having two, arguably three (depending on who you're talking to) slot guys on the field to me invites defenses to creep up to the LOS like they did last year. Who's going to be the guy that has to be respected deep and draw a safety?

Watching the All-22 and a couple of things are sticking out in this game: The talent deficit. The screen game is often said to be a play where the more talented team wins... and well... night and day between TB and CAR in that department. TB, like the rest of the league, knows that Evero is calling a ton of cover 3 this season to make up for the lack of talent on the backend outside of Woods/Horn. That's why we see Mike Jackson lined up with the other team's WR1 as often as we do. TB blitzed on nearly half of CAR's pass attempts and really attacked the right side. Took advantage of the lack of pass pro from the CAR RBs as well. Icky gave up two pressures that led to two sacks but had a clean sheet otherwise. TB abused the PS LBs that were starting. Irving went off for 190 total yards and had Wooten + Windmon looking foolish.

Panthers have ran 72.1% of their plays this season out of 11 personnel. League average is 60.4%. This aligns with Canales' time as the Bucs' play caller (69.4%). While JT is getting most of the snaps still, Tommy is still getting a healthy share due to his blocking prowess. As JT develops in that regard I can see the team leaning on him more in the passing game as LBs will have to guess whether or not he's blocking or running a route on the play rather than just assume he's doing the latter.

I think this is less of an XL can't play issue and more of a situation issue. WR4 on Ladd's team is THE DJ Chark, whom XL is replacing as WR1. Ladd's also been lined up predominantly in the slot where Thielen is, which to me means it makes more sense to compare McConkey to AT. What's the point of drafting a guy that's not going to get snaps because there's already another guy that does that well? Why not take a guy to fill one of the other spots and develop them?

This. This. This. I know folks are wringing their hands over Ladd being taken after XL and having a better fantasy season, but they're two entirely different receivers. It came down to taking a WR that's going to be in the same spot as the best WR on the team's roster, or taking a big guy with speed and fill that missing spot. Their usage this season even attests to that: XL Snaps lined up in the slot: 167 Snaps lined up out wide: 483 Returns: 77 McConkey Snaps lined up in the slot: 454 Snaps lined up out wide: 222 Returns: 18

While pressure was given up on nearly 70% of the passing attempts.

fwiw Bryce is 7th overall in BTT if you expand scope to the entire season

Oof that was rough TB attacked the Panthers defense like they started two LBs that were on practice squads... oh wait That pressure was relentless too. Gonna have to go back to the all-22 and see the individual match-ups I liked how they tried to keep feeding XL. Him and Bryce getting more reps together will be good for building chemistry.

Had to head to a family gathering yesterday during the game when it was 7 - 20. About to sit down and watch the rest that I missed... tots and pears pls T_T

Ok Elon.

Baker's arm was said to be "good enough" and that his deep ball tended to hang on him. There were concerns about his size and that he wouldn't be able to take hits from NFL defenders. Sounds familiar.

So what I'm getting from the OP is that folks shouldn't give up on developing a QB after just 1yr?

Pressured on 19 out of 28 passes... good lord the pressured percentage is higher than the completion percentage