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HE GONNA BE READY FOR WASHINGTON!!!!

Cam to Rhule

This. He hesitates so much or zeroes in on a target. It doesn't matter that he's got arm strength if he's inaccurate and makes poor decisions.

All of it sucks rn

The only QBs that I recoil from more than Ohio State & Bama QBs are USC QBs. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Just finished pushing through the thread and if I had to put money on what happened, I'd say there was a hairline fracture as a result of the ATL game that was reaggravated on that clip that ellis posted. Even so... you're marching your QB out there with a fractured scapula? Nevermind that other QBs have played hurt and that players have lied, Sam had imaging done. That injury would appear on the imaging. Even if he's able to deal with it through pain management, that's a broken shoulder. That's difficulty lifting, holding, keeping it still, etc. In fact: Yea... I'm getting ever so close to saying "fug Matt Rhule."

I'm incredibly concerned after all of the singing and dancing about the importance of recovery during Rhule's initial hiring. I haven't gotten a chance to go back and watch the Patriots game (was visiting a friend in Chapel Hill on gameday), but I didn't hear much about any big hits that Sam took. The only one I've been aware of this season was the shot he took trying to take it in on the QB run the week prior. If that's when the fracture occurred, then I'm cleaning house. I'm all for giving folks a chance to grow and learn on the job, but deliberately endangering a player is inexcusable.

Tickets were $100 for nosebleeds when we lost to PHI. Makes letting my PSLs expire in 2016 that much easier.

Way too early to be giving a GM a grade only 9 games into their first season at the position, especially when having to clean up the mess left by Hurney.

ngl, I'm excited about being to evaluate the current OL talent. We've seen something like 7 or 8 different combinations this season so far. We get to see if Elflein is going to be a viable option at center after Paradis, as well as getting Christensen more reps. I'm low on Daley, but he's going to get a shot at LT which is always a hot topic of conversation. Maybe we get lucky and Christensen shows promise. That would at least check LG & RT off of next season's needs. Maybe Deonte Brown comes back from injury and shows that he can be the anchor next season. That would put the team in a position similar to the Chiefs, Ravens, Rams, and Packers who have 3 (in the case of KC, 4) starters on rookie deals performing at a high level on their OLs. Should Christensen & Brown look like they can be our starting guards, then that gets us 2/3 of the way there! One thing that it would also enable, is for the team to truly go BPA in the draft, especially if Elflein also shows that he can at least not be terrible at center. The team could take a look at the OL prospects like Tyler Linderbaum, Evan Neal, and Kenyon Green or QBs such as Sam Howell, Spencer Rattler, and Carson Strong. Either way, this first round pick coming up is looking like they might be a major franchise cornerstone. Hopefully it works out well!

omfg Use one of our thousand day 3 picks on him pls.

DRAFT HIM, YOU COWARDS!

Sad for Sam EXCITED FOR TYLER LINDERBAUM

The troubles of being a shittacular team. So long as Tyler Linderbaum is snapping the football to a different Panthers' QB next season, I'll be happy.

The OL at the start of the season: Position Player 2021 Cap Hit (Millions) LT Cameron Erving $2,240,000 LG Pat Elflein $1,360,000 C Matt Paradis $5,698,000 RG John Miller $1,127,500 RT Taylor Moton $4,000,000 TOTAL $14,425,500 The OL at the end of yesterday's game: Position Player 2021 Cap Hit (Millions) LT Dennis Daley $881,838 LG Michael Jordan $613,886 C Sam Tecklenburg $549,990 RG Trent Scott $1,650,000 RT Taylor Moton $4,000,000 TOTAL $7,695,714 According to Spotrac, the average cap space spent on a starting OL this season is $19,600,000. The Panthers have spent $17,900,000 on the entire OL. That's nearly $2M less for the position group than what teams pay on average for their starters. The Pittsburgh Steelers starting OL has a cap hit of $8.1M, the lowest in the league... until Carolina finished yesterday's game. Meanwhile, look at the cost of the starting OL from some of the more successful teams this season so far: Team 2021 Cap Hit Tennessee $35,000,000 Buffalo $30,000,000 Arizona $28,400,000 Cleveland $28,400,000 Tampa Bay $27,700,000 New Orleans $19,000,000 New England $18,700,000 Denver $18,000,000 There are teams such as the Rams ($14.4M), Ravens ($13M), Chiefs ($10.5M), and Packers ($10.4M) that have spent significantly less than average on their starting OL while enjoying success, but they are also getting significant production out of players still on their rookie deals. Baltimore, Green Bay, and Los Angeles are all starting 3 offensive linemen still on their rookie contracts. Kansas City is starting 4. This team needs to find a way to draft and develop offensive linemen if we want to see sustained success. A franchise QB is great for selling tickets and entertaining the drunks, but as we saw with Cam Newton and more recently Matt Stafford, that is only going to get you so far until you put a competent offensive line in front of them. Overpaying veteran free agents is not the way. Get a guy on a second contract (Moton, check!), get a known commodity on the back end of his career if you have to have that greybeard in the locker room, and start teaching these young men how to block a pro level D-Line. Oh, and I most definitely didn't forget: Draft Tyler Linderbaum

This OL has been so bad. The QB has been bad. The OC has been bad. Even WRs bad. Bad bad bad.

Got curious so I went and did a quick breakdown. Surprisingly, both sides of the ball have had significant starts by 7 Hurney players, 2 Gettleman players, and 5 Fitterer players. Meanwhile, we have had 7 starters on offense that came in under Rivera, another 7 that came in under Rhule (the reason for being over 11 is that I've included Daley + Jordan as they've made multiple starts at this point). On defense, however, we have 8 starters that came in under Rhule with 4 that were here under Rivera (I included Horn with the defensive starters, hence the 12).

I completely forgot that it was a home game until fans boo'd Darnold

Draft Tyler Linderbaum and tell Tepper to stay out of personnel decisions. He was the one that pushed to move on from Teddy when the team could've drafted a QB in the 1st, sat him this year, and then moved on from Teddy's contract that had upset the penny pinchers.

YES AGREE WITH ME MORE

I'm expecting an old school type of game. Both teams are going to run it down one another's throats. Both teams are going to bringing it on defense. Game will come down to whomever had the most bad bounces/calls/luck.

The man has definitely had a rough few weeks. Didn't he miss some time during the offseason due to personal matters? If things are rough at home, it could definitely explain the lapses in concentration. Hope all is good for him there.

Bro, are you really drunk posting before noon on a Thursday again?

Chuck, just because you watched somebody on TV doesn't mean you get to tell them whether or not they can express an opinion.

Fwiw, Haason liked the two tweets at the bottom from Ant. Looks like he's tired of dudes that peaked as a 4th string LB on the JV high school team trying to tell him who missed an assignment when the assignment wasn't missed. I can't imagine how much he'd hate the Huddle.