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The fact that he's putting up personal bests during a season where everything around him is inconsistent attests to how solid of a player he is. The man has produced with awful OL and chaotic QB play all while in a system that doesn't even attempt to scheme guys open. Pay him!!

This more and more what I'm starting to expect to be the approach for next season. Rhule and company have attached their wagon to Sam Darnold, and with the lack of resources available in 2022 compared to 2023 I can see them doing what they can to try and improve the OL with the excuse being that Brady's system was advertised as being a way to work around a deficient line. As it currently stands, I'm all in on Evan Neal, Tyler Linderbaum, Ikem Ekwonu, Kenyon Green, Charles Cross, and Jaxson Kirkland. Unfortunately, that means that I'm expecting the staff to covet Cade Mays for his "versatility." If the team opts to not go LT in the 1st (TYLER LINDERBAUM PLS), I wouldn't mind using one of the day 3 picks on Obinna Eze out of TCU.

It's not going to be easy, that much is for sure. This offensive needs a QB, LT, LG, C, TE2, OL depth, and an actual scheme that can succeed in today's NFL while stuck with salary cap restrictions as well as no day 2 picks (though, to be fair, CJ Henderson for a third is actually starting to look like a steal).

Pls sir I can only suppress so much rage

I'm getting increasingly nervous that they're going to keep Rhule and march Sam out for another 17 games next season behind Erving-Jordan-Elflein-Christensen-Moton, but at least at that point the next staff could come in with as close to a clean slate as we've seen.

The answer is to trade down to re-acquire a day 2 pick (or two), draft Tyler Linderbaum, and then wait for the season to start so that we can rage that it wasn't a QB or LT.

Woo chile, back on ignore you go until you heal.

You know, with the way that the roster is currently structured in that this team is basically what we're looking at next year with few resources to do much tinkering with, it almost feels like we have to just ride with the poo show next season so that when 2023 starts the team will have draft capital + plenty of cap space to work with. This is as close to a Houston situation as we can be sans the Deshaun Watson fiasco. Unless the new coaching staff is getting to treat next season like "year 0" with expectations to simply be "don't regress" in the following season... idk... this just doesn't seem like an attractive head coaching destination currently. Granted, there's only 32 of those spots so they're attractive regardless, but this is ass.

I always get tickled by the "If you're skilled enough to get paid to play a sport professionally then I'm entitled to be a piece of poo towards you," sentiment that inevitably pops up in response to these threads.

The way they structured the player contracts, they really thought that they were going to be competing this season and next. Now they're out a 2nd and 3rd while staring at a potential top 10 pick. It does raise the question about whether or not they just march this out next season before pulling the plug midway thru. This isn't quite Houston-level bad yet, but we're getting there.

OOF

JStew liked this tweet from CJ. Could just be agreeing, but could also be a sign of things to come.

Wow. DJ Moore getting hurt, and then getting bonked by the trainer's tent by the trainer is a perfect representation of a Matt Rhule-led Panthers' team.

I made it through the Clausen season with less disappointment and dissatisfaction than I have this season with Rhule & co. Time to clean house and get some actual NFL-level coaching on board.

That's all we need to hear to know that he's actually a top 5 prospect.

omg

Exactly. I'd love to hear whether or not scouts are finding the 2nd - 4th round prospects to be fairly close. I recall Fitterer saying that guys 26 - 100 (or 150?) were all round about the same impact-wise. If they had the foresight to ID a potentially weak 2nd & 3rd round, it makes the CJ Henderson trade even better (or the Sam Darnold trade even worse if it's a strong class).

Sticking with the original plan would've meant retaining a 2nd, 4th, and 6th round draft pick as well as the ability to part ways with Teddy to save $21M rather than being stuck with Darnold at the cost of $19M. Just imagine... this team was in a position to draft Mac Jones. Instead, they decided to pay $17M, a 2nd, a 4th, and a 6th in exchange for Sam Darnold replacing Teddy Bridgewater plus a 6th. That's awful no matter how much somebody hates Teddy for replacing Cam. We really could've been in a position to have Mac Jones starting next year behind Christensen-???-Linderbaum-Brown-Moton

Thoughts on day 2 prospects? Is this looking to be a top heavy draft class or maybe one with plenty of depth but few monsters? Strongest/weakest position groups?

- Cameron Erving: 34 1/8 inches - Dennis Daley: 33 3/8 inches I hate it here.

This was literally the point of the thread that I made, but somehow folks thought it was a pro-Teddy thread in spite of explicitly stating at the very beginning that it isn't pro-Teddy.