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Exactly where I'm at with him tbh. He'd a be top tier OL6.

I had forgotten how awful the 2013 draft was until I went back and checked. 1. KC - Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan 2. JAX - Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M 3. MIA - Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon 4. PHI - Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma 5. DET - Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 6. CLE - Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU 7. ARI - Jonathan Cooper, OG, UNC 8. STL - Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia 9. NYJ - Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama 10. TEN - Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama 11. SD - DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama 12. OAK - DJ Hayden, CB, Houston 13. NYJ - Sheldon Richardson, DT, Mizzou 14. CAR - Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah 15. NO - Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas 16. BUF - EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State 17. PIT - Jarvis Jones, LB, Georgia 18. SF - Eric Reid, S, LSU 19. NYG - Justin Pugh, OL, Syracuse 20. CHI - Kyle Long, OG, Oregon 21. CIN - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame 22. ATL - Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington 23. MIN - Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida 24. IND - Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State 25. MIN - Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State 26. GB - Datone Jones, DE, UCLA 27. HOU - DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson 28. DEN - Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC 29. MIN - Cordarrelle Patterson, RB/WR, Tennessee 30. STL - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia 31. DAL - Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin 32. BAL - Matt Elam, S, Florida That top half especially is horrendous. Thank goodness that Star fell.

When that's compounded with what the team already gave up trying to appease Tepper by tying up $19M in a guy that the team gave away a 2nd, 4th, and a 6th for... oof. That's a hefty price tag to keep swinging.

I'm at the very least expecting better play calling and adaptation to talent than what we had with Brady. I really liked some of Joe's design concepts (especially on passing plays), but he has a lot to learn when it comes to calling a game. I'm also expecting a season similar to Rhule's first where we kept games close but couldn't win them in the end. That's going to likely frustrate me even more than the L's the team will take.

I hate everything about the team rolling with Elflein at center, but it might end up being the best move long term if we're able to pick up a franchise LT with the first round selection. The free agent market for guards is going to be DEEP this year. Current prospective free agent guards per Spotrac (pls sign Kyle Long). There are also some potential cap casualties out there. The Bucs can save $10M if they make Ali Marpet a post-6/1 move. The Titans will save $10.5M moving on from Roger Saffold. New England can save over $7M cutting Shaq Mason and the Cardinals $9M with Justin Pugh. Erek Flowers has 0 dead cap attached to him, freeing up $10M for Washington. Gabe Jackson is another potential post-6/1 target. Greg Van Roten and Connor McGovern could also be options if they're cut. Or just start Deonte Brown, of course.

Terrifying that the owner might be as well.

Patrick Mahomes wouldn't be the same Patrick Mahomes that we saw last night if he had been drafted by the Giants rather than Andy Reid. Josh Allen wouldn't be the same Josh Allen that we saw last night if he hadn't gone to Buffalo and Sean McDermott. Yes, every team needs a franchise QB. They also need a complete head coach, an intelligent GM, an effective + ever-evolving system/scheme, a competent OL, and a defense that can create turnovers. It won't matter who the QB for the Panthers is unless the team can create an environment in which a QB can be successful. The current state of the franchise, with Matt Rhule leading the way, does not look to be it. This next season is about as much of a throw away as John Fox's lame duck year. Rhule is going to be forced to carry this mess through his third season and when the wheels fall off the biggest question will likely be, "Does Fitterer stay or go as well?"

Compared to last weekend, this most recent round was an instant classic.

No. Deshaun cannot be deposed before Feb. 22, 2002. Only a Huddler would think that trading the future for somebody that might not have one is the best way to fix this mess.

Rodgers in Carolina? We have just as much of a shot as he does

The moment the 4-12 season finished this fanbase would rightfully be calling for Taylor's job. Let's not pretend otherwise pls

I made it through a lame duck John Fox with Jimmy Clausen, Keith Null, and Brian St Pierre at QB This is nothing.

There are some fairly consistent issues that Sam has even when we were going 3-0. He tends to hang on to the ball and gets mixed up fairly easily by pre-snap disguises by the defense. He's got an NFL arm and athletic ability but in regards to being a leader, having football smarts, and soft mentality he's lacking. Those aren't things that can be fixed overnight.

The more that I think on this, the more that I like it because it means we will be going into the 2023 season with a brand new coaching staff and over $150M in cap space?

I have no idea how I feel about this. Less disappointed than if it had been Gruden, I guess?

I can only imagine how much exponentially worse crying about crying about crying is.

There's literally highlights of him doing so in post game reels. The dude has sucked and hasn't shown us that he's going to turn it around next season, but the crying at this point by a bunch of grown folks is even more pathetic.

I'm trying to understand what's out of the ordinary here. A coach notices or is told how a defender is responding and points out the penalty to the official. That's... normal?

I don't want any of the Grudens anywhere near this franchise. The dude was the Jags OC when they went 1-15. The 3 years he was with the Bengals he started with a rookie AJ Green and Andy Dalton. Granted Dalton isn't exactly a world beater, but he also had Andrew Whitworth in their prime on the OL. As underwhelming as the other options might be, this one is just bad.

It's whatever you want it to be. I just gathered information to better inform myself and shared it in case there were others looking for more than just incessant bitching.

Seems to be a flat out awesome positions coach overall that can handle any group except for OL on the offensive side of the ball. Here's to hoping the lumps he took at ECU + UMD helped make him better should he be the one to get the position. What frightens me most about him getting the position is that ultimately, his offense will be closely advised by Rhule who wants to keep games close and eke out a win in the end. I cannot put into words how much I hate that.

Initially wanted to throw the typical Huddle bitch fit, but decided to dig a little more. Native NC guy that got his start with David Cutcliffe at Duke before serving under Mike Tomlin. During his time with the Steelers he coached AB, Emmanuel Sanders, Hines Ward, Antwaan Randle El, and Jericho Cotchery. As of late, coached Jonathan Taylor to an insane season as well as got Nyheim Hines in on the action. Something worth mentioning here: Taylor was killed over ball security and pass-catching abilities during the pre-draft process but looked markedly improved on both of those (while still putting up the season he did by a Colts line dealing with all kinds of injuries). There was no dip in production from the Colts after not only losing their OC (Siriani) but RB coach as well. For those of you with subscriptions, there's a lengthy write up here on The Athletic. For those that don't subscribe to The Athletic, here are some noteworthy sections: A great orator, the son of a minister, and an NC native? He shares two attributes with Matt Rhule and might be allured by the chance to come home? When you look at that and the season that Jonathan Taylor had running behind an OL that had 10 different starters (though to be fair, 5 of those starters are really friggin good), I can see why the team reached out for a 2nd interview. Definitely checks the boxes you'd expect the current regime to have. Knew how to play seven positions? Backed up Ed McCaffrey and Shannon Sharpe? Consulted with the head coach and got their final approval on the offensive game plan? Matt Rhule probably texted David Tepper back after the initial interview "" when asked what he thought. Competitive atmosphere, relatable to the players, and cares about the players? Very much the type of coach that players have said that Rhule is. I can definitely see why he got a second interview now. That last comment by Mike Tomlin I felt was especially important. Can you imagine having this level of competency and professionalism with Cam instead of the absolute dogshit way that it was done? This man learned from Bruce Arians while in Pittsburgh how to evaluate and develop WRs, from the same guys that coached Peyton Manning on QBs, and game planning from Kubiak/BOB? Ok. Before I was interested, now I'm intrigued. I very much appreciated the article not shying away from Scottie Montgomery's 9-26 (.257) record as an NCAA head coach. I also appreciated Mike Tomlin's endorsement seemingly justified as Montgomery in his 30s what it took Ron Rivera until he was a few years into his tenure as an NFL head coach to figure out: ask the guys that have been there what to expect. An active seeker of feedback in order to modify his offense? If he does the same things with players during games, could that mean we might see successful halftime adjustments and 3rd quarters that aren't poo shows? I'm a big believer in an inclusive leadership style that values input, and the fact that he was so targeted by some major programs after being terminated from East Carolina attests to his capabilities (especially as a position coach). At first glance, I too was rolling my eyes at this being the first name that we see getting a second interview but the more that I learn the more curious I get. It might not be the name that we expect, but he certainly seems to match all of the qualities that Rhule values. Something worth mentioning as well... former All-Pro center Kevin Mawae is the current assistant OL coach for the Colts. Mawae held the same position for the Bears in 2016, and from 2018-2020 was reunited with Herm Edwards at Arizona State as an offensive quality control analyst. If we don't land Mike Munchak, I wouldn't mind maybe taking a look at his as a possible OL coach.

Brady's offense, from what it looked like to me in our limited exposure to it, seemed to rely on using TEs more as mobile decoys that were designed to pull defenses away from the target (pre- or post-snap) while also setting them up to block downfield for the players catching it underneath. In the redzone, it appeared that he wanted to get the TEs more involved. Those same plays where they'd send a TE on a route to eventually block for somebody else they allowed them to target the soft spots in the defense instead.

Considering that I had an absolute blast going back and watching him exclusively for this write up, I'd say I'm pretty damn excited

I figured this was the case, but the rage needs red meat as you can see