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According to the Google spreadsheet, the team has met with: Nick Emmanwori (local visit) Malaki Starks (Combine) Billy Bowman Jr (Senior Bowl) Andreas Keaton (top-30) Jonas Sanker (pro day) They must be a lot higher on Demani than fans/media are aware, or could also be very select in who they're targeting.
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Chris Simms: Jalon Walker is the most overrated player in the draft
Icege replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Jalon is going to be a victim of his environment, unfortunately. Fortunately, we have a couple of blueprints (Haason Reddick + Frankie Luvu) for different development paths that might work out for him. -
I was high on Mykel Williams to start the season, then very low on him during the scouting process. Now, I'm comfortable with the pick. Him and Shemar Stewart are the two best strong-side front-seven guys in this draft and Mykel has tape from earlier in his college career to show the production that you expect from his measurables. If the decision makers feel that getting a guy for life after Clowney would be best to keep the run defense strong after this season, I can understand that. Though I could also understand them looking for a pass rusher on the weak-side that can attract double teams and open up things for the LBs + Moehrig on blitzes the way Burns was used.
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Daaamn. I didn't realize both squads had so little draft capital. Got me curious as to who might be trade up candidates based on capital. 11 picks - BAL 10 picks - BUF, CLE, DAL, JAX, LAC, MIA, SEA 9 picks - CAR, LV, NE, NO 8 picks - ARI, GB, KC, LAR, NYG, NYJ, PHI, SF, TEN 7 picks - CHI, CIN, DEN, DET, HOU, IND, PIT, WAS 5 picks - ATL 4 picks - MIN Can't help but wonder if NO is considering a deal with JAX to jump up and take Shedeur since they've got the picks...
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Looking over the roster and the team has positioned themselves fairly well for this upcoming draft when it comes to addressing the edge group. Clowney and Wonnum are the definite starters with Pat Jones II having split time evenly both on the strong- and the weak-side last year in Minnesota. DJ Johnson is a strong-side guy, Amare Barno weak-side. Further down the roster, Boogie Basham is a strong-side defender as is Kenny Dyson (primarily a ST-contributor tho). Thomas Incoom splits time on both sides of the line. The team seems to be approaching the strong-side with a platoon approach with the weak-side needing the biggest injection of talent. However, they might also be looking to have an answer for life after Clowney as part of the offseason's theme of killing the run on defense. I can better understand the allure of Mykel Williams and Shemar Stewart when trying to look at it through that lens. Manifesting a trade back for Donovan Ezeiruaku... (シ_ _)シ
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Why I Believe That We Will Trade Down
Icege replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
Fwiw we do have an example to pull from re: trade value In the 2016 draft, Tennessee sent #15, #76, and a 2017 second-round pick to Cleveland for #8 and #176. -
Any particular reason Noel over Higgins? I haven't looked at any WRs this year but have heard nothing but good things about the Iowa State duo.
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Feels like the draft doesn't start until #5 and then it's madness. 1. TEN - QB Ward 2. CLE - CB/WR Hunter 3. NYG - EDGE Carter 4. NE - OT Campbell 5. JAX - OT Membou/DT Graham/TE Warren/Trade 6. LV - RB Jeanty/DT Graham/LB Walker/Trade 7. NYJ - TE Warren/DT Graham/LB Walker/OT Membou/Trade Good chance of Warren, Graham, and Walker all being available when the Panthers get to the podium. Not a bad problem to have... especially if any of those guys have a team that's head over heels for them and willing to overpay to move up. Apparently, the Jags are toying with the idea of trading Etienne and taking Jeanty at #5. If they're trying to get Chicago to hop up to #5 so that they can take Warren at #10 and grab additional picks then that ain't too shabby.
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Chris Simms: Jalon Walker is the most overrated player in the draft
Icege replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
I was riding with the Mike Evans comp as well up until the combine and T-Mac came in with arms nearly 4" shorter than Evans' Play style I can see the comp still tho, esp given how both were forced into going for a ton of contested balls in college. -
Mans really came in like
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That's the pre-snap disguise and as already stated the strong safety is going to be one of the underneath or a deep 1/4 guys. That is a reduction in coverage responsibility. Moehrig is more than capable of getting down into the box from a two-high look as well. I don't think he'd be in the NFL if that were the case, let alone be considered a top-10 run stopper.
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Chris Simms: Jalon Walker is the most overrated player in the draft
Icege replied to NAS's topic in Carolina Panthers
Sims has to do a little outrage marketing to make the engagement numbers go vroom, but there's been a few analysts that have commented on how Walker is ultimately going to be depending on whomever drafts him to properly develop him. Whether that's starting him off of as a rotational edge guy on obvious passing downs or settling him at ILB will be up to whoever ends up with him. A lot of folks like to point out Isaiah Simmons, and as much as I like Isaiah as a Clemson fan he's not the guy that Jalon Walker is between the ears (this isn't to say Isaiah isn't bright, but didn't seem to breathe football like Jalon does). The kid's got a shot; he's just going to need it somewhere that's going to aim first before firing him off. -
Evero runs Vic Fangio's scheme and leans heavily on cover 4 with disguised coverages. It is not predominantly cover-2 as suggested. This means that the box safety is going to likely be covering 1/4th as opposed to 1/2 of the field. Whomever the team brings in to be the boundary safety (unless they stay with Demani) is going to be covering the 1/2 part. Though with Evero's scheme, that box safety can also be one of the three underneath coverage guys depending on how they've got it disguised prior to the snap.
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It is Quiet...Too Quiet: Thanks Dilworth Neighborhood Grille?
Icege replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
Translation: He hates Bryce Young for not being Cam Newton and hates David Tepper since he was the owner at the time. Justifies it to himself by claiming that Tepper is too feeble and was intimidated by Cam's outspokenness. I have no idea why that would be the case with Cam but not with Eric Reid who was signed by the Panthers while being blackballed for kneeling with Kaepernick. Considering Cam was cut in 2018 and Reid was signed in 2018, the timeline ain't timelining. -
Another thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the team signed a top-10 player at their position without resetting the market for the position group like they did with Horn (only for it to be reset again soon after). Took a historically bad run defense and added a box safety that was elite in run defense and 21st in rushing the passer. It's a massive upgrade from Jordan Fuller. Who would they have preferred instead? Definitely need to get a boundary safety for Evero's scheme unless they're depending on Demani.
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Nailed it! Chiefs got #10 overall (and selected Mahomes) and sent the Bills #27, #91, and a 2018 first-rounder (ended up being #18) to pick the QB that has kept them out of the Super Bowl. Tbf to the Bills tho, they turned those picks into Tre'Davious White, Dion Dawkins, Tremaine Edmunds, and Siran Neal. Three out of four hits ain't bad at all, but that one for one for KC... ooh wee mayne.
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The only thing giving me pause in locking Graham to Jacksonville is that they took both LSU DTs in last year's draft (Maason Smith in the second, Jordan Jefferson in the fourth). Might be more palatable for them to go TE vs. DT since Strange was a second-rounder in 2023 and after two seasons hasn't cracked 500yds total. Membou just makes too much sense though given their need at RT and him being a mammoth. I think their board might go Membou, Warren, Graham based on the current roster. They're in a decent position to trade back if it isn't too far for their liking.
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He's tight with Jack Daniels, Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, and Jose Cuervo.
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Both currently have abysmal TE rooms. JAX: Hunter Long, Brenton Strange, Johnny Mundt, Shawn Bowman, Patrick Murtagh NYJ: Jeremy Ruckert, Zack Kuntz, Neal Johnson, Stone Smartt JAX needs an RT like you said though... could go with the big boy in Membou to play across from Walker Little. Positional value is there which would keep the Khans happy as well. I think on the off-chance that the Jags trade with Chicago should they want to jump LV for Jeanty that they'd probably sit pretty at #10 and scoop him. I'm still leaning towards the Jets unless Graham is still on the board. Shoot... I wouldn't be too upset with the Panthers trading back and letting another team (Indy?) take him at #8 (especially if they land Ez wherever they land :3)
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Some similar trades that have taken place: 2019 - PIT trades #20, #52, and a 2020 third-round pick to DEN for #10 to select Devin Bush, LB, Michigan 2021 - CHI trades #20, 2022 first-rounder, 2021 fifth-rounder, and a 2022 fourth-rounder to NYG for #11 to select Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State 2022 - NO trades #18, #101, #237, 2023 first-round pick, and 2024 second-round pick to PHI for #16, #19, and #194. They then traded #16, #98, and #120 to WAS to move up to #11 and select Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (WAS took Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State at #16)
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This has got me curious... especially since we've been hearing that ~500yds number as a possible indicator of success for a drafted WR. brb, compiling data that nobody but me and other people with an unhealthy football obsession might be interested in T_T
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I don't think Warren makes it passed the Jets, myself. And that's if he makes it passed the Jags.
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He went to the Jets last year. Cowgirls drafted Tyler Guyton to be their LT in the 1st afterwards. Could still be in the market tho like you said. Guyton had some rookie struggles and if they think they have somebody with higher upside available...
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Definitely need to start planning now for life without TMo, but I don't know if the team is going to have somebody just as good on the roster. I like BC, but he's on a 1yr deal. Got a feeling we might see that 2nd round pick used on an OT if there's a decent one still available.