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Yeah 9 sacks in 17 games isn’t a lot. I hate he can’t get over that 10 sack hump. I think he does have a high win percentage and can get to the QB though. I thought Brown was going to help Burns this year but he has sucked as well.

I was wondering how the PFF scores worked… so 67 is good? It just sounds bad. Still I knew he wasn’t a complete player, you don’t sign a player who’s coming off a 12 sack season for the price we got Reddick for unless he has lots of issues.

Cam had a worst PFF grade than Sam despite being used in goal line situations where he could get a easy TD. He’s not the answer. He might have a good play here or there but his arm isn’t what it was. He’s a shell of the player he once was.

Miami had injuries at the QB position and didn’t have as much talent yet turned it around and ended with a winning season. Dude might be a good nfl coach. I think he will find a job easily. I mean for what he did in Miami with the talent he had he should get lots of credit.

Even though we had the 2nd ranked defense somehow I think our defensive line sucked. Look at former 1st round pick Derrick Brown, he’s sucked, I could be wrong but I think he’s regressed. The other young defensive linemen haven’t done much better. Brown and Reddick may get sacks but their overall PFF grade sucks. We have had plenty of games where we haven’t got after the QB or let them run down our throats. I think the whole 2nd ranked defense is misleading anyhow. Our offensive line sucked and honestly I don’t see any improvements from our OL. It took all season just to see the two rookies get some playing time. We need coaches who have NFL experience and can help develop young talent. I don’t think college coaches are going to get the job done.

This level of ignorance is why you don’t listen to the fans who want to win now instead of waiting and developing what you have. There have been many QBs that sucked for years and then one day turned it around and was good. The most recent example I think of is Alex Smith, he was worse than Darnold his first 4 years. Then look how good Alex Got once the 49ers drafted good offensive linemen and gave him some weapons and a good coach. Steve Young, Drew Bledsoe, Troy Aikman and John Elway took years to be good players. Drew Brees wasn’t good his first 3 years. Jameis Winston went from being a turnover machine to only throwing 3 interceptions to 14 TDs in 7 games this year and might have turned his career around. With the right coaching staff you can fix players, it happens all the time at all positions. Sam had a horrible coaching staff and franchise for the first couple of years with the jets. He comes here to a coach that is new to the NFL and seems to be doing a horrible job of developing players. It looks like players are actually regressing under Rhule. Add the fact 4 out of the 5 offensive linemen have sucked this year and our receivers have been pretty bad and the fact it seems our offensive coordinator is clueless to being an NFL coach and I would say that it’s possible that Darnold might be redeemed. It’s not a guarantee but it happens all the time in the NFL so why couldn’t it happen again? Give the guy a better offensive line and a offensive coordinator that can help him then find someone to help him improve this offseason and you might be shocked at what you see. Hell it took cam about 7 years just to have a completion percentage over 62% because it took him that long to find him a coach to teach him checkdowns and short passes. It’s easy to call Darnold a bust until you look at how he’s had some of the worst coaching staffs around and had crappy offensive linemen every year. Let the guy develop.

I honestly would rather us draft offensive linemen and build a team for a good QB to come in the next year or two (like TB did with Brady) rather than draft a QB in the first round. I honestly don’t like this years QBs. Pickett might be the best but he’s older and only has one good year. I thought Riddler might be good but the way he played in the playoff game against a good team bothered me. I’ve seen a lot of player comparisons of Matt Corral to a bunch of QBs who ended up being bust, like David Carr so I don’t know about him. I’m not sold on Howell either. Willis is a no for me. Strong might be good in the NFL but I’m worried because of the competition he played against. I wouldn’t mind taking a late round pick on Zappe. I mean for someone to put up those amazing numbers I would love to see what he can do in the NFL, sure college numbers don’t always translate but let’s say a great QB was on a bad team, wouldn’t he put up big numbers like Zappe? If he ends up being a bust it’s okay because he will be a mid round pick. honestly I would just rather us build a good team and when a good QB like a Watson, Wilson or Rodgers is a FA we can sign him here. Maybe if we suck enough next year we can get the #1 pick and get a good QB but I don’t want one this year.

I’m down for minshew. There are plenty of QBs out there that I think could get the job done for us. Think of how many good QBs want off their team right now, like Rodgers, Wilson and Watson. Then you have Minshew, you have your guys like Tyler Heincke and Kyle Allen which I think could do a decent job. There are plenty of back ups who could be a decent starter for us. Personally I don’t want us to draft a QB this year.

Looked how bad the other QBs played for us. Pj was even worse. Cam was horrible. If our WRs weren’t dropping so many passes, our o line didnt suck and our RBs could average over 4.0 ypc maybe Darnold could get the job done. I think we also had a bad OC that hurt Darnold. You honestly think if we had a good qb with this offense that things would be that much better? I don’t think so, not when you have 3-4 offensive linemen that are horrible.

When I heard we Drafted Hubbard because Rhule’s wife called I knew we were going to be screwed. If you look at how many players we cut or traded under Rhule that ended up doing good for other teams you can see that we don’t know what the he’ll we are doing. Rasual Douglas and Perryman had great years this year, we traded our TE who was arguably the best receiver for the Jags.

we need someone who can develop Sam. If he fails then the OC and Rhule will be gone anyhow so I’m willing to see us waste a year on trying. Plenty of QBs took a few years to develop, let’s give Darnold a chance with a OC that knows what he’s doing and a decent offensive line.

We could have traded for minshew and kept our second rounder.

Wait so despite Reddick and brown getting 11 and 9 sacks they scored that low? Or is 60 considered good? Those grades just seem low for a defense ranked 2nd.

Maybe but did we give him a chance to succeed this year? Do you honestly think that our coaching staff this year was any better than the Jets staff with Darnold? Our offensive line was horrible,CMC hurt a few games in, Roby Anderson dropped a lot of passes, we traded our Top TE, I believe our team was one of the top in dropped passes. The run game wasn’t that good. The offensive coordinator wasn’t good, we didn’t hire any special QB coach to help him, hell we had PJ Walker as our back up instead of signing a good Vet to tutor him, no Cam isn’t that guy.

I like getting offensive linemen from certain colleges. I just notice a pattern of certain college offensive linemen being good and being bust. I feel like a lot of good offensive linemen come from the big 10, like Iowa, Ohio state. Also Oklahoma seems to make good offensive linemen. I feel like there have been some big bust coming from SEC and ACC teams. Texas A&M and Ole Miss come to mind.

Was Henderson good because he was going against back up WRs? To be fair I thought he did okay in the Dallas game. Some of those catches were insane and were perfect passes.

I think we should give Darnold another shot. I mean the interior line played like crap all year and most of the year our left tackle was also bad. You can’t expect a young QB learning a new offense to do good with the center and both guards playing horrible every game. CMC was also injured most of the year and Hubbard wasn’t that good. So we didn’t have a run game to help Darnold. I would love to see what Darnold can do with a better OC. Hell why didn’t we sign someone who could help develop Darnold?

My problem with Rhule compared to Rivera is that we were about a .500 team each year and was competitive. Under Rhule we don’t seem to be developing any talent and a lot of guys seem to be regressing. We don’t seem to be competitive and Rhule seems to be cutting/trading players that end up doing great for the other team. Rhule also seems to show loyalty to players from his college days which is dumb. PJ Washington shouldn’t be our back up, we should have had a nfl vet as our back up to help Darnold this year. Our first round pick from last year doesn’t seem to be developing, we are moving players to different positions like Chinn instead of letting them play a position they are good at.

I think there are a few QBs that could be decent starters for us. Look at how Heinicke played and we cut him. Think of how many Decent QBs are out there that just need a chance. I think teams are afraid to give certain QBs a chance because they have more money or draft picks invested in others that they won’t even give a undrafted qb a chance. Kyle Allen could be a decent starter as well. Gardner Minshew seems to be the guy that no one wants yet does good on bad teams. Hell Jameis Winston had over a 100 qb rating and wasn’t throwing interceptions this year. There are plenty of good QBs out there that want to leave there teams like Russell Wilson. Look at what happened with Tom Brady. Jimmy G will be a FA and is a good qb although in my opinion he gets injured too much. Maybe we build up a good team and just sign a good qb that’s got a few years left and that’s what gets us a Super Bowl. Hell maybe Darnold gets better with a better offensive line and a good offensive coach? Plenty of QBs have sucked their first few years and ended up being good. I dont think there are any QBs we should draft this year, if we do how can we expect him to develop with this offensive line?

What’s crazy is how many players have been cut over the past few years and done well for other teams. I don’t see why that wouldn’t change next season.

Yes Rhule in my opinion sucks but he isn’t the reason why Cam sucks, Cam is the same Cam from last year. look at his stats, they are basically the same. He will have below 200 yards passing, 60% completion, decent amount of rushing yards and a rushing td. yes he will score 2 TDs every game but one of them is just him doing a short run for a score, something your running back should be doing. Last year he had 9 games with under 200 yards passing, 4 games under 100 yards. He only had 3 games over 250 yards passing. you can blame it on the coaching and the players around him but that’s bs. We’ve seen plenty of good QBs put up good numbers with bad coaches and no good players around him. Cam isn’t starting material anymore. People were given false hope with he signed and scored some TDs in his first game back. Sam Darnold is better than Cam right now. Only positive thing about cam is that he may give us a good chance of loosing the rest of our games so we can get a better draft pick.

I think we should trade whoever we can’t keep. CBS and pass rushers are always needed and we could get a lot for Jackson and Reddick. Resign them or franchise them and if we need to we can trade them for whatever we need.

He couldn’t even do that in the XFL so how can you expect him to do it in the NFL? He hasn’t played well for us and I don’t expect that to change when we face a top NFL team.

I would love to see cam sign and play great. Imagine if he was to come back and be a good QB and end up being our starter for a few years.

Isn’t the problem with cam that he can’t throw over 20 yards because of his shoulder injury? I mean you can say the patriots had no WRs last year but they still had a decent Offensive line. His throwing stats were bad. He threw a high completion percentage but that’s because he threw a bunch of short passes. His td to int ratio sucked.