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How far is Ruben Bain going to fall? Yikes!

Bill Polian and Bill Lekas on Chalk Talks SiriusXM radio this morning. Polian needs to retire (again). First he talks about Andy Dalton as our backup and then suggests trading down to get Sadiq. Clueless. At least he brought up the hole losing Ashawn Robinson caused.

Didn't this open at 6.5? We spent a lot of money for one more win.

Signing Walker to just one year (at only 4M???) is a head scratcher to me. The guy was a seventh round pick, but he took over the starting LT spot and held it for three straight seasons on a good football team. Finding a legit LT is tough. Just look at this year's draft where people are saying that the top two prospects (Mauigoa and Fano) are actually RT's and the LT list is full of guys that need a year to develop. Waiting around for Icky to shock the world and return to form as a LT is not going to work out. Free Agent A+

Sadiq feels like a lazy comp. Sure he would be a big improvement over what we have but at a position we don't and maybe can't (midget qb) utilize. I hope the staff puts together a list of players you automatically take at 19 (Freeling, Lemon, Downs, Faulk) and if none are there, trade back to look at (Thieneman, McNeil-Warren, Proctor, Lomu, Allen, Iheanachor, Banks, Woods). I get the people that think an OT would be a waste because we temporarily patched that hole, and ILB and safety are a waste because that is high to take those particular positions, but by trading back we get extra picks to fill every need. A draft that has an OT, S, ILB, slot WR, and C would really put us in a good position moving forward if we get an extra first three rounds additional pick.

That can be said of any position. Ok, we can add a good Z WR later than the first round. WR is very deep this year. Other positions like DL and OT not so much.

We can add a Z WR later than the first round.

I like the previous picks better. Freeling, Stowers, and then we get our ILB and C too??? Not bad.

Oops. Apparently i can't subtract you are correct. 95 points is the first pick in the fourth but still I doubt they let QJ go for that. Maybe if we throw in XL.

According to the trade values chart dropping from 19(875) to 22(780) is worth 45 point or a 4th round pick (#127). QJ had a couple of break out type games; no way they trade a late fourth rounder for him.

Utah decided to play Lomu at LT and Fano at RT and Fano has the (now disputed) combine report about his short arms so that gives me pause. Proctor worries me about his ability to move side to side against quick edge rushers. You grab Freeling right away at 19 if he is there; great measurables, high ceiling, and ability to play LT. That would be an A+.

The WR class this year is not that impressive at the top but is very deep. Therefor, we would be better served saving the wr pick this year for later rounds where we can still get some quality. I could see us pulling the trigger on Lemon if he drops. Tate won't be there and Tyson has that injury history.

I don't see how they can predict Ickey's recovery or Moton's degenerative decline at this point. Way to early. SportsInjuryCentral

If you have to prop up Bryce with the first pick, take the TE. At least there is some separation between him and the next best TE. This WR class is really deep. Take one 4th or later rounds. Hell, we have two 5's; package that to move up if you want.

Tyson: hurt a lot and doesn't create yds after catch. Deepest wr class in a while so it would be stupid to go wr in first round.

Players drafted after 19 in his mock that I would take before the WR: Monroe Freeling OT, Ty Simpson QB, Dillon Thieneman S, CJ Allen ILB. I don't mind that TE in round two but Caleb Lomu OT and Brandon Cisse CB would also be good value. EssentiallySports

LOL.

Still need a safety but absolutely no problem with those first three at all.

aka, teams that wanted to draft him later than 8.

Seems fine as a 4th round pick after we secure OT, ILB, S.

Not this year's class.

Jonathan Brooks is that player if he returns to form.

It is a historically deep wr class so i hope we don't pick one at 19. There is also no real consensus on who the best wr is. I've seen Tate, Lemon, and Tyson all at the top spot. I feel like TE goes pretty deep too although Sadiqu is the clear no. 1. Trade back and pick up your wr and te later.

Agree. Tackle is a huge long term need and we put a bandaid on it for this year. Moton or Walker goes down and we are in trouble. I don't think we pass on Mauigoa, Fano, or Freeling at 19, but I bet none are there anyway, which would free us up to go safety, ILB, or defensive end. I think the WR/TE talk is hoping for a trade back. Remember, we b.s.'ed the draft w/ the no. 8 Tet pick last year.

To me, this statement means we better draft a DE in the first two rounds and trading back might make a lot of sense if we want one with our first pick. I would add Keldrick Faulk to that trio as I think he translates to a 3-4 DE.