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Concession accepted, the argument is still invalid though… @LinvilleGorge

Never claimed your iq “magically increases as you get older”, don’t straw man me. I mean’t that it was possible that he became a smarter NFL player @joemac

Good. But you ought to consider manning a rapist scum as well if you feel that way about Winston, that is if you want to stay consistent without admitting to racial bias. @OldhamA

Way to misrepresent my argument. When you claim “someone is talented relative to being a football player” and also claim “he is dumb” in the same sentence, then that would imply you MORE LIKELY THAN NOT mean dumb as a football player. I’m no troll, honestly I just wanted to further this discussion to see whether or not you said he was dumb because of his race. I now have enough information to conclude that you PROBABLY did not mean he was dumb because of his race.

Well in your OP you claimed that he was as dumb as a brick, but talented as a football player. So the implication behind your statement will be interpreted as football intelligence more often then not, that’s how a natural language like english works. Now if you want to retract that claim and say that you mean only cognitive ability then that statement still wouldn’t be valid since those mistakes can be attributed to immaturity rather than intelligence. @LinvilleGorge

Not knowing the rules of the game does not mean you are a stupid player, no. (once again assuming you are a multi-year starting QB) @TrevorLaurenceTime22

Bradshaw? Again ad nauseam. Ram and Storage??? But yeah, I’m the one trolling.

@LinvilleGorge

You’re conflating football intelligence with normal cognitive ability. Besides, him scoring a 6 on the wonderlic doesn’t necessarily mean he was stupid since your not accounting for him getting smarter.

@TrevorLaurenceTime22

That’s a red herring. Assuming he was a multi-year starter, not knowing a detail about the rules does not prove he’s stupid. Pat Mahomes didn’t know how to read defenses (an actual nuance of the position not some pedantic nonsense like OT rules) and still wasn’t stupid.

Non of which are football stupid @TrevorLaurenceTime22

Yes, even Kerry Collins isn’t football stupid. You put a inept person to start at quarterback in the NFL and they wouldn’t even put up a quarter of the stats he did.

If he was stupid then he wouldn’t be a multi-year NFL starting QB. @LinvilleGorge

Do you consider Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisburger as rapist scum @OldhamA?

Only because they were check downs and lateral passes. Joe Brady does not trust Will Grier to run the offense which is evident since he asks PJ to take 5 steps and push the ball vertically. @Cdparr7

If Will Grier had won the backup job I’m sure you and David Newton wouldn’t still be going on about possible replacements.