Ivory Panther

It's very obvious to most analyst...Most analyst will tell you if Bryce is 6'2 & 220 pounds, he is generational. CJ is 6'3 & 215 and generational has never been used in the same sentence. Don't get me wrong, he was very good in college but not 1 person has ever used generational to describe his game. To me, regardless of size, if someone has traits you call generational, it's pretty obvious.

same thing will be said of CJ over Young in few years...

he also had Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. bahahaha

As another Huddler pointed to, today ppl who want Bryce, listened to Scott and came out knowing Scott described Bryce. ppl who want CJ listened and came out thinking Scott could be describing both or in your case ANY QB on earth...

We all compete against each other. QB is by far, the most important position. So much so that we were willing to trade a lot to have a chance to draft the best one. We have this QB want to take because he is the top of our evaluation, but you know what? we will give him to you instead if you give us more picks. Even if that was the plan (I highly doubt it) the Texans are not that dumb to believe it. They will just stay at 2. If we think these QBs are that close and interchangeable, why wouldn't the Texans think so as well? at that point, why would they give us anything?

Actually Scott always reveals what he thinks and wants to do. Before the draft, there was even an article by one of our beat writing about listening to what Scott says to know what Carolina will do. & because the year prior, he pretty much did exactly what he said was going to do at the presser. Before we traded for 1, Scott talked several times about "if you have conviction on 1 guy, you go up to get him". That's exactly what we did. Most GM wouldn't even have brought that up before they traded up so other teams wouldn't make the price go up. But that's not how Scott has operated. So yes, Scott is pretty transparent for a GM. and if you listened to him talk about Bryce before the draft & his description today, you can clearly see that the pick is Bryce. He made a point of talking about "processing". Who is the QB that everybody can agree is the best processor currently? He made it a point to specifically talked about the fact that it is more than "throwing the ball & accuracy". Who is the QB who is known the be the best thrower with accuracy? CJ.

I’ll be fine with CJ. He is deadly accurate & throws the prettiest ball I’ve seen in a long time. I’m concerned abt his play under pressure & play making ability (although he did exceptionally well vs GA which was a 1 time affair) I’ll definitely get behind him if he is the pick, because I’m a panthers fan. but I believe Bryce is better & will have a great career, so I rather have him. So until draft night, I’ll continue to talk abt how Bryce should & will be the pick.

Imagine not wanting ur QB to be smart. Poverty fan to the max this one. Bahahahaha

And To think that Bryce is better than Brees at this stage of their career sky is the limit for Bryce.

Bahahaha that was a whole lot of none sense…let’s see on draft night & the rest of their career.

lol, concern doesn't mean we are not taking him. CJ has many concerns. Literally Any QB coming out has concerns including TLaw, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow etc...

I don’t know how Frank will pass on who he just described.

Chark lives in the medical tent. There is a reason Detroit is not signing him back. as far as cap, we can borrow on next years. When teams want a player, there is always a way. The saints found a way to sign Carr...

Ppl don't realize that Bengals is ran like a small family business. They barely have the money to put in escroc for Burrow's contract. Poors can't afford luxuries and at this time, Higgins is just that for them. they will absolutely trade him. The only question is when.

How is a 24yo fringe top 30 WR a quick fix? that's WR1 for many teams. He is entering his prime. who are you drafting with pick 39 that's fringe top 30 WR this year or next?

This chart flies in the face of your argument. you are saying Bryce can't see over the line so he can't throw in the middle. The chart shows that QBs on average are shorter than Centers/Guard/tackles. by your logic, no average height QB (which is basically what CJ is btw) can throw over the middle just like Bryce due to size. So what does it matter that CJ is taller then?

it's based on the reports that Young actually is part of the building the game plan against the opponents every week. He gets the initial plays on sundays and the next day, knows it all and add to to them according to report. keep in mind the plan for most QBs including in the NFL is to start talking abt them on Tuesday. No QB in college did that this year as far as what's been reported. And it shows when he plays. He knows exactly where everyone needs to be lined, hence why he is good a scrambling.

I did by showing you at this stage, one is calling plays & adjust protection at the line of scrimmage while the other gets plays called in. Can CJ do that, I don't know. But what I do know is that he is not currently doing that... as far as the GA game it was impressive, but it was 1 game. Can that be the new CJ? Sure. But we don't know. What we do know is that Bryce has add performances like the that over & over & over again.

So you are telling me 5'10 can't see over 6'5 line but 6'3 can see over 6'5? Technically, neither of them can. It's funny how people think that QBs can see over the line. I'm 6'3 and I can assure you that I can't see over ppl who are 6'3 let alone taller. Andy Reid once said & I'm paraphrasing... "QBs don't look over building to throw the ball, they look between the buildings to throw the ball". The "can't see over the line" thing is very overrated! Bryce scrambles when he has to, due to pressure & not because he can't see over the line.

You have literally described Young! Remember, processing is what's special with Bryce compared to anyone else in this draft. Stroud is not in the same league as Bryce when it comes to what you have just described. that is exactly what Bryce does! CJ does this but at a much lower level. I know that because Bryce gets 2 plays in and decides which to use depending on defense. that requires understanding of where ppl are in the field (teammates & defenders). what CJ has over Bryce is slightly bigger arm and very pretty spirals. His ball placement is ELITE. Bryce is very good but CJ is great there. someone just posted total pressures for both. Bryce in 2021: 226 pressures VS CJ in 2021: 111 pressures Bryce in 2022: 144 pressures VS CJ in 2022: 99 pressures. as far scrambling, of course Bryce scrambles because he gets more pressures. CJ doesn't have to scramble as much playing in the BIG10 for a much superior team. Not sure how Scrambling is a knock on Bryce when he does it out of necessity because he plays against very good defenses.

Very interesting stat. 2021 Bryce was pressured over 100% more than CJ with similar weapons and won the Heisman. 2022 Bryce was pressured 50% more than CJ with less weapons but posted similar numbers in stats & wins. As I have stated before, both QBs are good but Bryce has proven that he can do more.

Based on what? lol. I feel like ppl just make "analysis" out of thin air. what is managing a game and how has Stroud done that better?

I disagree with ur analysis of Young’s game. we can speculate on injury potential but nobody knows. That mean CJ or anyone other QB can injury prone. Bryce is 1st & foremost a pocket passer. His ability to extend plays is so good, ppl forget how good he is of a pocket passer. If u watched 21 compared to 22, u can see how bryce played differently. He threw a lot from the pocket in 21 because WRs were getting opened. This year, he created more because he had to with limited talent at WRs. A QB who is not dependent on skill positions talent is what TOP 5 QBs are in the NFL. for any QB to thrive, the Oline has to be solid…Mahomes got destroyed in SB vs Tampa when he didn’t have a line. So let me tell u that Bryce or CJ will need solid OL. If anything, bryce may thrive more as he is more mobile & manipulates the pocket better. the more I watch Stroud the more I like him & I’ll be happy with him as I think he can be special as well. but at the end of the day, bryce is already special in my book.

I disagree…

Bryce out of college is way better than Brees coming out of college. so why can’t he be as good as Brees or better in the nfl?