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Taylor and Hartsfield are solid players too. Rhule/Fitterer have done a remarkable job building up the CB group. This is the kind of CB talent and depth we need to face a modern NFL offense

It's almost impossible to believe considering how thin we've been at CB for most of the past 10+ years, but this group may have the most long term potential (considering they are all young) in many, many years

He also has about twice as many TDs. Keep it in perspective

IMO a lot of the defensive issues can be mitigated by having an offense that can actually pull their weight and not keep them on the field so much. I think that had a lot to do with them breaking down both physically and mentally as the season progressed. Not saying there wasn't some regression, but I think 75% of it was due to the complete lack of complementary football from our offense and to a lesser extent special teams

Absolutely, unequivocally, no. He's the most talented receiver we've had in a long time.

Reddick has proven more than Burns has. I truly don't understand the hate or why people think he shouldn't be a priority to resign. Reddick is every bit as good or better as a pure pass rusher and plays the run better than Burns. I like Burns, but he is a liability against the run. Watch the tape. I love the fact that we resigned Luvu, but I cringe to think that means we are just going to let Reddick walk. I cannot fathom how people think letting a proven double-digit sack guy walk is good business. If we don't resign him I could definitely see Atlanta (who just released Donte Fowler) or the Bucs (to pair him with Shaq Barrett) will sign him and he will terrorize us for the next few years. I had no opinion on Reddick to start the season, and thought like many that he was brought in solely as a Rhule guy. And while there was probably a lot of truth to that, he more than surpassed any expectations I had. People seriously need to watch the film. I understand the argument about being undersized against the run a little bit, but damn if he doesn't win against his guy in pass rushes consistently. His pressure rate was near the top of the league. You can never ever have too many guys that can rush the passer or cover corners. Getting Daviyon Nixon back healthy and upgrading over Brayvion Roy will help playing the run. Also, don't get rid of Denzel Perrymen. But Reddick just had the best pass-rushing season since Greg Hardy in 2013. He was Peppers level elite in rushing the passer. Letting Reddick go would be the worst decision this franchise has made since guaranteeing $18M to Darnold. Don't let one stupid mistake lead to another. Resign Reddick.

Hell you could easily make the argument Reddick had the best overall season of anyone on the team. I would lose even further faith in Rhule if we don't try to resign him. Guys who can get double digit sacks don't grow on trees. The worst move the Saints have made recently was allowing their salary cap to get so jacked up they had to let Trey Hendeickson walk and sign with the Bengals, helping lead their defense to a SB

Reddick was by far the best pass rushers we had this year. It is absurd he didn't make the pro-bowl. He is a proven double digit sack guy and proved he wasnt a one-hit wonder this season. I hope the naysayers keep the same energy when Tampa signs him to replace JPP. I think he should be the first priority to resign on defense

Even as someone who wants Rhule gone, I think he has done pretty well on his hires all things considered. I wasn't happy with the McAdoo hire at first b/c of all the dysfunction from his HC tenure in NYG, but he does have a solid record as an OC. And he was probably the best we could do given our current (non-ideal by any stretch) QB and OL situation. The ST hire was good. I would certainly be happy with a top 10 ST group after the sorry ones we have had. And literally any OL coach would seem to be better after the abomination of this year. I am glad to hear he's had multiple Pro Bowlers he's coached. Other than finding a franchise QB, finding an OL coach who can actually develop guys is arguably our biggest need. My overall excitement right now is still pretty low, but since it seems Rhule is getting at least one more year, I hope these moves pay off. At least we are starting to get some substantial NFL coaching experience

My thoughts exactly. I've been a fan since the beginning and a PSL owner since 2006. Like others have said, unless/until I find out Rhule is gone, the feeling is worse than 2001 or 2010 bc there is currently no hope. These last 4 years have been brutal, but this year has been the worst. I love the Panthers to my core, but this feels like an increasingly one-sided investment

As tough as it is to admit it, you're right... hard to see any pathway where we are good next year. The thought of Matt Rhule for another year is soul-crushing... I will not forgive him for not letting Cam at the goal line and/or not putting him at the end. What a waste of 2 seasons (really the last 4). I'm just tired, man. This effing sucks

Fire Matt Rhule. Matt Rhule is responsible for this abomination of an offensive line

Seriously?? He's speaking for a lot of us

You're 100% right

There's been a lot of Shaq slander since he signed that contract, especially since his play prior to the contract did not seem to warrant how much we paid him. And then watching Bradberry outperform him last year only added to that narrative. I'll eat all the crow b/c I never saw Shaq playing at this level, which is right up there with the elite level of play we saw from Luke & TD. For all the contracts given over the past few years that look awful in retrospect, this is one that has worked out much better than almost anyone imagined. Shaq, Rhule, and Snow deserve a lot of credit. Shaq should be a Pro Bowl lock for his play on the field.

75% Panthers/ 25% WFT I've been where it was way too close to 50/50 FWIW Without the Cam coming back narrative, I think it would have been closer to 60/40

They alternate introductions (i.e. alternating offensive & defensive starters). Defense was last home game- offense will be introduced on Sunday

Man some of yall are reaching so far you've entered a new dimension... It's OK not to have constant grievances in your life... This is the best time to be a Panthers fan in at least 4 years... it's OK to just enjoy the moment without searching for things to get upset about. Everything about this "story" is a massive nothing burger.

I already have. They're called PSLs. Same basic thing just a different way for the team to raise money

Other guys deserve consideration, but they both should be starters

Reddick is having the best season for a Panthers defender outside of Peppers, Kuechly, or 2015 Norman. If the Panthers can make a playoff push and Reddick keeps up his play, he should be in contention for DPOY. Best FA value signing in Panthers history. He is not getting enough respect nationally

Reddick should be a lock for the Pro Bowl. He maybe All Pro if he finishes the year as strong as he has played so far. I think Donte and Shaq should make it also

I appreciate the response. I have someone interested already but if it falls through I'll let you know. Thanks

Got an opportunity to buy lower level tickets for Sunday for a reasonable price and am selling my PSL tickets. Will sell for face value ($80) to Panthers fans on the board Please DM me if you're interested. You're not going to find tickets anywhere close to that online. My seats are on the 45 yard line Panthers side.

He came back in. He was unnoticed because he locked his guy down