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Sounds like he will be out just this week if things stay the same. Probably will play will some kind of brace and will probably have to address it in the offseason. I am impressed with Lewis & Hunt... they are both dawgs FR Good signings by Dan Morgan. Corbett has been stellar at center also

Was thinking the exact same thing

Wish we would have seen him and DB together for more than 1 game

That was the first glimpse of a true WR1 that we've seen since DJ Moore left (and he didn't always play at that level). DJ Moore is a beast after the catch, but just in terms of route running, I think Johnson clears him. Yesterday is what Johnson is capable if with good QB play.

Dan Morgan, I will forever sing your praises if you can figure out a way to bring Reddick back!

Did ISM get picked up elsewhere?... surprised we didn't sign him to PS if that was a possibility

Both these statements can be true, and it is how things transpired last season. There has never been more of a mismatch between how the roster was presented to the fanbase vs. what it actually was than last year. Fitterer deserved to be fired solely for trading up for a QB with the actual state of the roster. Personally, I think Tepper's meddling and impulsiveness led to the front office making promises to Tepper (and the fanbase) that were wildly unrealistic. As someone who has worked in sales for 20+ years, I can attest how easy it is to sign up for unrealistic results when you have an overbearing boss. However easy it might be in the moment, it never, ever ends well. We have never, ever been gaslit like that about the state of the team before last season. Especially the coaching staff piece, which turned out to be the biggest joke of all time. I bought into it- I think a lot of people did. In retrospect, the coaching staff had no cohesive plan, the offensive line was a disaster (both through injuries and just sucking), and our receivers were a joke outside of Theilen. Our TE's were equally atrocious. We looked utterly unprepared on offense almost every game. Going back to the sales analogy, you're taught early on (or should be) to underpromise & overdeliver... the exact opposite happened last year. I hope we don't repeat those mistakes again.

Most concerning question going into the season. I hope we still add someone TBH. I feel like there still have to be better options from elsewhere (just like CB). I think Eku Leota, DJ Johnson, and K'Lavon Chaisson have some potential, but it's scary right now how little proven depth we have. We are either going to have to blitz a lot, or hope our corners all play like Jaycee. I honestly feel pretty good about the team outside of this...

Easier to do that with vested veterans. Most of the cuts (younger guys) have to pass through waivers, and the Panthers didn't want to risk that. I'm sure when Matthews was originally cut the Panthers told him this was their plan. Only real risk was Matthews wanting to sign with someone else, which he obviously didn't want to do. Same reason we waited to cut ISM & Coker IMO. Let teams make the initial rosters post-waiver claims and then try to cut them and sneak them back on the practice squad. I think the team always viewed Matthews as a core 53-player, but this was basically just a charade to not risk losing other players knowing they could easily resign Matthews after cuts & waiver claims.

This is the year for Bryce to live up to his draft status. Players, coaches, (hell anyone with eyeballs and knows football) knows last year's situation was impossible for anyone to succeed in. And not just the QB, although it was the obvious focal point due to the trade-up. Listen to the interview with Cam Jordan... players (& agents & coaches & executives around the league know what a mess the Panthers organization has been... As a fanbase, the QB is the lightning rod (and deservedly so for what they get paid & the praise they receive when the team is winning), but to place 6+ years of organizational failure by Tepper at the feet of a rookie QB was and remains stupid IMHO. That being said, the NFL is Not For Long, and nobody cares about what's fair or not in the long run. Bryce was picked #1... you either live up to that or you don't... Bryce needs to be better this year, but it's not just him. This organization needs to be better from the top down. And we all hope that starts with Tepper leaving football solely to the football people. The Panthers have had some bad seasons in our existence, but last year was unequivocally the lowest point in franchise history in terms of organizational dysfunction... I was here for 2001 & 2010. Those were bad seasons, but they truthfully didn't feel as hopeless as last year did (and in 2010 we knew we would be in the running for Andrew Luck or Cam Newton). And for all the crap we (rightfully) give Matt Rhule, never did we look as uninspired & unprepared as we did last year during whatever the Frank Reich Era was... Those 11 games will remain the most bizarre chapter in Panthers history... Honestly, Canales has been a breath of fresh air so far, but no one gives a poo (and rightfully so) about anything other than winning. The Panthers have made a lot of big moves (not just the Bryce trade-up), and most, if not all, have looked bad up until this point. That's the reality. We are the laughingstock of the NFL right now. It sucks, but only winning and not being ass will fix this issue. I personally hope BY9 proves people wrong, and I think he can. But the proof is in the result on the field. I'm willing to give a complete mulligan for last year b/c I've never seen anything like that in terms of dysfunction, but Bryce will not be the unquestioned starter going into next year if he doesn't improve (along with the rest of the team) this year.

This might be the first thing you've ever said that I fully agree with... but you are 100% correct on this. Dealing with 3 kids & my favorite sports team being an embarrassment for 6 years & counting... it's definitely a necessity...

100%. The entire coaching staff seemed so blase last year... I've never seen a staff less prepared (and devoid of emotion) as the offensive coaches. Look, these players should feel the weight of professional expectations... most of us on this board do in different capacities. The optics of a basement-dwelling team playing ping pong while hard working fans drop thousands of dollars on a team that has been out of playoff contention 5 of the last 6 years by Halloween is horrific... Hell, my company got bought last year, sales have dropped this year, and over 100 people have been let go... the real world is cold AF... not unlike the NFL. I want the Carolina Panthers to be an organization that isn't the laughingstock of the league, and where winning is the ultimate goal every day. Like Steve Smith famously use to say, "We're all day-to-day in this world." And if a (hopefully) future HOFer had that attitude, so should everyone else in this organization from top to bottom.

I agree 100%, but you know how demoralizing this has to be for the depth CB's that made the initial 53?? This is the most damning indictment I've ever seen on a position group... They basically said if your name isn't Jaycee Horn or Dane Jackson, we ain't got any use for the rest of you CB's, especially the guys slated to play on the outside...

Yeah, I've never seen anything like this in franchise history... For all their talk about liking the corner depth, actions speak louder than words... The coaching staff obviously has no confidence in any of the healthy corners outside of Horn...

100%. I think we are going to run a lot of 2 TE sets, and I think it's almost a forgone conclusion we keep 4 TEs. I think Thomas, Tremble, Sanders, and Matthews will all make the team. I also think there is a chance we only keep 5 WRs (especially if we can find a trade partner for TMJ) given the practice squad elevation rules (elevate a guy up to 3 times during the season before you have to add them to the active roster). I ultimately think we keep 6 WRs, but I am 99.9999% sure we're keeping 4 TEs, and Ian Thomas will be one of those 4, at least for this year.

It's the reason a lot of us old timers have stayed away. I've never in my entire life seen so many supposed fans actively root against our own guy. It's embarrassing

One caveat to all the roster talk is that with the Panthers having the number 1 priority for waiver claims through Week 4, there probably will be a good amount of churn among the final roster spots even into the season. I think the roster will be even more fluid than most years especially over the next 6 weeks

I doubt there's an extension. But I also think he's a lock to make the team. Canales is probably going to run a lot of 2 TE sets, and although we all know he sucks for the most part as a receiver, he is an above average blocker and I think a lot of people will be surprised by how many reps he gets this year of he's healthy

Everything I've read from the beat writers indicates we're going to keep 4 TEs. I think Thomas, Tremble, Sanders, & Matthew's are making the roster. Based on his history, Canales is going to run a lot of 2 TE formations. Also, I think with the current practice squad elevation rules it will make it a lot easier to keep only 5 WRs and elevate someone if neccesary. IMO it will be Johnson, Legette, Theilen, Mingo, and TMJ. I could see them keeping ISM or David Moore as the 6th WR and returner, but I also could see them using that spot with someone like D'Shawn Jamison (29) who is a backup CB to keep more guys at CB. Great analysis OP. I'm cautiously optimistic this offense is going to surprise some people

I went to Canes games back in '04 & '05 when you were probably still a swimmer waiting to make your dad a father. There was no one there bc they sucked. Some of the lowest attendance in the NHL. As a Panthers fan coming off a SB season (03-04), I couldn't even believe they put a hockey team in Raleigh, and given the attendance, a lot of people speculated they would be relocated somewhere back up north where they would be supported and not "Mayberry." Seriously, educate youself. That is reality. That being said, comparing that environment to 2024 Canes would be disingenuous. I was at PNC last year and know how great the current environment is. Comparing the current environment at BOA to 10 years ago is just as disingenuous. Just bc you didn't witness how good BOA is when the Panthers are actually decent doesn't change reality. Seriously, surely you see that coming from such an elitist environment like the globally renowned world-class city of Raleigh, NC... I guarantee you if you went to a Canes game and a Panthers game in 2005, the difference would be unreal bc the Panthers were awesome and the Canes were (at the time) a moribund franchise. I have been in BOA when the whole stadium was rocking. You simply are young, don't know what you're talking about, but want to portray yourself as having knowledge about things you simply don't. You have a lot in common with modern day politicians and televangelists Like I said, Idiocracy has prevailed... Have a great day too!

Dude you have no idea what you're talking about. Best place to live? LMAO... that's your criteria... Charlotte gets put all over those lists too... come on man... and those lists have zero to do with sports. I'm done after this bc I'm punching down intellectually here... The Panthers have been bad for 6 years now. You are obviously young and not overly educated based off the "dunks" you're putting out there that certainly are, so let me educate you today on the Panthers. The Panthers sold out for well over a decade straight. BOA has been as good an environment as there is when the team is good. Fan support for the Panthers has been incredible when the team has even remotely reciprocated. The idea that Charlotte doesn't support the Panthers is utter BS. People in Raleigh have the biggest little brother syndrome of all time... Nobody outside of the Triangle cares about any of your "vaunted" sports team outside of Duke-UNC in basketball on a national scale. Sure, the Canes are great. But nationally, the WWE dwarfs the NHL in ratings. More people care about Cody Rhodes than Sebastian Aho... or anyone else in the NHL for that matter... I doubt less than 5% of anyone in this state outside of Raleigh even knows who that is... that's a knock on Aho who is a great player, it's just the NHL barely makes a ripple in the overall hierarchy of American sports. It's not in the same universe as the NFL or NBA no matter how badly you want to tell yourself otherwise. Raleigh is not a big-time sports city, no matter how much you want to scream into the abyss about it. Neither is Charlotte. But no one here is making such a nonsense argument... LOL it's good to be young and to be ignorant enough to be confidently wrong... WTF are you even on this board though since Charlotte is so beneath you? There is an actual discussion board on this very site for Raleigh sports since they are so superior... Maybe it's bc I'm watching Idiocracy with my son, but your timing is perfect, my man... The dumbest among us have become the most confidence in their ignorance... God Bless America!!

WTF are you talking about? There is literally nothing east of Raleigh until you get to the coast. Nothing really north either not that it matters. Y'all really want to believe Raleigh is some big-time place and Charlotte is bumpkinville. It's so provincial minded and frankly laughable. Unfortunately, actual demographics and reality paint a different picture. Raleigh homers are in a different class, man. A city of half a million whose inhabitants think they are some global city when most people living in this country don't even know where it's at... And they think they're flexing by crapping on Charlotte in this forum... The insecurity is off the effing chart...

This is ridiculous and embarrassing... lol do you work for the Raleigh Chamber of Commerce? I mean sure Raleigh is perfectly ok, but you're acting like Raleigh is NYC and not half the size of Charlotte like it actually is. I know it's easy to crap on the Panthers and everything related to them, including Charlotte, but this blatant nonsense from someone who needs to travel outside the Carolinas a little bit... it would help you from making embarrassing small-town comments like this... For real, do you really believe that? B/c if so, you really need to get outside of Wake County, NC some if you expect anyone to take you seriously...

I have 4 PSL seats in Section 540, Row 19 for the Panthers. The past few years I have traded a couple of Panthers games for Charlotte FC games, but the guy I had traded with didn't renew his Charlotte FC tickets this year. If there are any Charlotte FC season ticket holders that are interested, please DM me and we can work out a trade. This is my preference so I can avoid Ticketmaster and their BS fees. Thanks!

100%. It flies under the radar given all his other blunders, but the Miles Sanders' contract was atrocious, and it only looks worse after a year.