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  1. Yup. Or have a line so good, that Sewel has to switch sides because LT is already locked down.
  2. TBD Apparently not. Yes. The jets thought they had the answer in Darnold and traded up to get him, mortgaging their future. Seriously, there are other players in football besides QB and oline Kungfoodude. No. I consider benching 8th overall, or 3 picks benched indefinitely waste. No, and TM might start if we go 3 wide. Same goes for Fields. We don't know about Darnold either. We weren't discussing what might happen. We were discussing what HAPPENED. We traded for Darnold before the draft. We passed on Fields and Jones at 8. You were saying that the Darnold picks should be included in the equation for passing on Fields. I was explaining to you that is IMPOSSIBLE because they were already spent. The. draft. capital. was. already. spent. Apparently it is for you because you have trouble comprehending that the draft capital was gone when we passed on a QB at 8. You exclude the draft capital spent for Darnold because it was gone when we passed on Fields. Why do you want to live in this imaginary world where we didn't trade for Darnold and pass on Fields? What does it buy you? Its done dude. Darnold's here. We didn't draft oline in rounds 1,2 and 3...HEY...wait a minute. On another thread you said you wanted OLINE in round 1, NOT FIELDS. So now you're just trolling. OK now I understand why the trolls keep pie-ing you. It's becoming clear now.
  3. Panthers legend Steve Smith next in line for a shot at Hall of Fame (usatoday.com)
  4. As I read this quote again "When the compensation was enough where we didn't have to give up what we thought was too much that [it] would hurt our team and a chance to get him here, we'd watched so much tape on him that we saw enough shining moments." It sounds like we talked them down?
  5. Yup. I can't find the video interview but here the quote : link "We were sitting there one day on defense, and I can't remember (exactly) what we were watching, we were watching a cut up, and Sam was playing on the other side of the ball, and a couple times he made some throws, and Phil Snow, our defensive coordinator, was like, 'Man, that kid looks like Matt Stafford.' And so, we put a couple games on – and this is the defensive staff -- and they were all like, 'You know what, every game we watch, he makes a couple of big-time plays, and there has to be some meat on the bone there,' " Rhule said. "So, kind of went through the process and kept watching him and going back and watching him in college and watching his pro day and then going back and watching his first year in a different offense and the second year and his third year. When the compensation was enough where we didn't have to give up what we thought was too much that [it] would hurt our team and a chance to get him here, we'd watched so much tape on him that we saw enough shining moments."
  6. or isn't. 2 Things happened: 1)We did trade for Sam Darnold. 2)Fields and Jones fell to 8 and we passed. Why do you live in this imaginary world where #1 didn't happen, but #2 did? Would you consider moving to a world, where #2 didn't haappen and #1 did?...please I agree. You either bench valuable draft capital in Darnold or Fields in this scenario, an very large waste. Ahh, but do you value a player on the bench over the #1 defensive player in the draft? Because that is the choice.
  7. That's an interesting take. The problem is, we had already spent the draft capital on Darnold because it didn't look like Fields or any top QB was going to fall to us. When the 9ers traded up, and the Lions traded away Stafford, many thought, 4-5 QBs could very well be gone. Who would have thought the Lions would take a LT they didn't need. Some thought Atlanta might select Ryan's replacement. It was possible we could walk out of the draft with no QB and have Teddy another year after we had very publicly spent months trying to replace him. AWKWARD. So the formula becomes Darnold+Horn-DraftPicks > Darnold+Fields-DraftPicks-BenchedQB The DraftPicks cancel out to become: Darnold+Horn > Darnold+Fields-BenchedQB Assuming Darnold is benched it returns to Darnold+Horn>Fields Now we might have been able to trade Darnold away after the draft, but a lot of potential suitors had found their guy in the draft.
  8. I agree Henry is far more special than Tannehill. Kind of like CMC and Darnold, actually. So what you're saying is, we need to bring in the Saints offense and load up on talented receivers and TE's. He did.
  9. It was, until this year.
  10. Agreed. So Tannehill was ~3.0 int%, low yardage guy and Tenn has him overperforming? Maybe, we're going to find out. He better be better than Teddy. Yeah, Rhule's secret sauce was Snow. They won on defense. BUT, Joe Brady HAS taken what looked like an average QB and magically turned him into to more.
  11. Yes. I also think the question becomes, if LT1 doesn't dress, we have to start with LT2 and he gets hurt, what do we do? Its seems unlikely to have 2 go down in a game, but not as unlikely to have to start LT2 and he goes down. If LT3 has never taken reps there, oops. We spent half the season starting various LT2's last year and it looks like we're headed in that direction again. Pat Meyer knows what he is going. He did more with less last year that I thought possible.
  12. Injury did play a role for sure. But his int% grew 50% upon Gases arrival, BEFORE the injury. His yardage per game dropped substantially before his injury. His yards per game had been increasing every year until Gase arrived. His int% had been on a decline. Those trends reversed when Gase arrived and before the injury. They continued their reversal after the injury. Did injury hurt Tannehill's performance more than Gase? Maybe. But the "bad decision making" represented by interception percentage spiked when Gase arrived before the injury. I'm not saying its all on Gase. I'm saying Gase isn't blameless. BTW, all of the jets problems weren't on Gase either. They mortgaged everything to trade up to get Darnold and then couldn't draft for sht with the picks they did have. That doesn't mean Gase was a good coach. He wasn't.
  13. LOL Scott and Erving swing too. Really BC played left in college and is practicing RT now, so he swings too. So all 4 tackles can play either side in a pinch. I don't think that is an accident.
  14. First of all, I'm sorry. I conflated discussions and thought it was about Sam. So that's my bad. To answer your question, it's complicated. 2016 was Tannehill's best season by QB-record and passer rating in Miami, but he only threw for 230 yards a game, his worst to that point. His int% went from 2.0% to 3.1% when Gase arrived. By QBR and TD's, 2014 was his best year with over 250 yards a game. The wheels fell off for Tannehill's second Gase year, where he only threw for 179 yards a game with an atrocious 3.3 int% . His QBR was the lowest of his career at 33.2. He was traded pretty cheap after that. The same pattern emerged for Darnold. A sharp decline the second year under Gase. Gase's old-school reliance on the run game and screens can make the passer rating look good while at the same time reducing yards and touchdowns substantially. I agree that not all of the problems were on Gase, but high int%, low touchdowns, low yardage, low QBR are highly correlated with his tenure for both Tannehill and Darnold. There's a reason Gase has the reputation he does.
  15. Yeah, I think he is confusing the two, since they are both FA defensive players.
  16. Do we really deserve it?
  17. I agree. Everyone's worried about Darnold in pass pro, but the O is designed for fast throws. Bucs and Saints do the same thing. Our pass pro pressure % was top 10 in the league last year. We should be worried about the run game. Our YBC was 25th and the run d's we face are tough. Bucs(#1) x2, Saints (#5) x2, Jets (#7), Giants(#8),WFT(#10),Eagle(#11), Atlanta(#15)x2 We do not do well against teams that kill our run game. jets sucked at everything except stopping the run last year. Erving and Elflein score MUCH higher in run grade blocking than pass pro. Its pass pro that kills their overall pff scores.
  18. Beers not much better.
  19. Yeah, so we practiced it this year in minicamp and OTAs in a addition to training camp. Without some of that stuff last year, we couldn't practice anything preseason. Teddy's interview was about during the season stuff anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeOKQAv5NmU
  20. We practiced 2 min and RZ in OTA's and minicamp I think too.
  21. I know right? I thought that too. So I guess that would mostly affect the lines right. So D might get more pressure because the oline can't hit em?
  22. I'm not a fan mostly because you can't block downfield on a pass. So the blocking scheme gets a complicated timing twist or there's no downfield blocking at all. So for the run side, its either ineffective, overly complicated, increased likelihood of a flag, or some combination of all 3. I'm not against faking handoffs obviously, but choosing run or pass during the play complicates 2nd level blocking for the run. As for removing the hats-up signaling, there are other ways to address that.
  23. Could be. But that only works if Rhule had concluded that Moore wasn't going to make the team. We're missing something here. Either Moore looked real bad in camp, maybe with the playbook, or losing 1 on 1s, or attitude or something. So much so that they concluded that Elflein, Paradis, Miller, Daley, Tecklenburg and Brown were going to beat him out. Or Moore did something? In any event, we clearly had a popular UDFA based on the claims. Lets see if he's protected or makes a team.
  24. I never knew you Cosmo Girl, but apparently the Panther community loves you as much as you love the Panthers. Rest in peace.
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