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Sure, but Sam could look much better than zach and we still lose. Once again, we don't know how we lost this imaginary game. Hey look, one of the resident trolls like another one your posts. smh

Oh people will blame him and Darnold, no doubt. Whether or not its deserved is to be determined. What I've seen so far is an aggressive coach who has gotten his players to overperform. He is someone willing to take calculated risks on the field and off. This thread is stupid. We are discussing if the coach should be blamed for losing a game that hasn't even been played yet. When we win this game, I'm kicking this gd thread.

Did you see this thread? Best. Video. Ever. My Favorite Video of Tommy Tremble - Carolina Panthers - Carolina Huddle

Like us, no one knows what the jets are with all the turnover. The 2020 jets are long gone. Their coaches are all rookies as well. Saleh has never been head coach before and LaFleur has never been OC before. It will say something, but we have no game details, game context, or season performance...so its hard to already assign blame accurately.

Now that Moton is squared away, lets get Tremble's rookie contract done!

It sure feels that way. I went a looked at the Chiefs game where Daley started at LT. He look pretty good.

unless you're the Panthers... then you have 5 LTs... since that is about how many tackles we used last year.

I think Rhule and the line coaches may agree on the perspective that the difference between LT and RT isn't what it used to be because there are a lot of good rushers on either side. Just ask Von Miller and Remmers in SB50. So to move Moton to LT midseason when he nailed down RT didn't make sense.

Yup.

Taylor Moton Signs Extension With Panthers | Over the Cap " Taylor Moton agreed to a new five year contract worth about $85 million with $43 million guaranteed at signing. The move should validate the massive increase in the right tackle market that occurred when Ryan Ramczyk signed a very lucrative contract extension about two weeks ago. The wording on the Moton contract is interesting. In general franchise players, even when they have signed a tender, are negotiating a new contract. In this case the announcements of the deal were very clear to paint this as a four year extension worth $72 million. The difference in the two numbers is notable as a four year deal averages $18 million a year while the five year deal would average around $17 million a year. The $43 million guarantee (my guess is it will be a few dollars more than $43 million) should wind up as the top number among right tackles just edging out the Ramczyk deal. Ramczyk’s deal had incredibly strong cash flows so we will have to wait and see if this deal even comes close to that. While the extension vs new contract debate is a bit of semantics I would guess this is where the two sides were able to come to an agreement. From the Panthers perspective they should clearly view this at $17 million a year which is probably closer to what they were considering as an offer when they tagged him. The $18 million number is closer to the Ramczyk number and valued in the same manner which makes it reasonable for Moton to accept. " Good article. It discusses the tackle market as well. This is another article saying the guarantees are like the Ramczyk deal, so now I don't know what the aints did.

Taylor Moton Contract Breakdowns, Salary Cap Figures, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac " Taylor Moton signed a 4 year, $72,000,000 contract with the Carolina Panthers, including $43,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $18,000,000. In 2021, Moton will earn a base salary of $13,754,000, while carrying a cap hit of $13,754,000. " 13,754,000 I believe is the franchise tag amount. It looks like very little change to his cap hit this year. If you look at over the cap which hasn't updated yet: Carolina Panthers Salary Cap | Over the Cap His cap hit is the same.

Carolina Panthers, Taylor Moton beat franchise-tag deadline by agreeing to 4-year, $72M extension | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF Huh? No it doesn't. Ramczyk has guaranteed $60 million. He is the 7th and 8th highest paid tackle by yearly and by guaranteed amounts respectively. Sometimes pff just whiffs.

Scott started the Bucs2, Lions, Packers and WFT. LIttle started Falcons2, Cardinals, Chargers. Daley started Chiefs game but exited the game and LIttle finished. Okung started 7 games: Raiders, Bucs1, Falcons1, Bears, Saints1, Vikings and Broncos. Schoefield started the 2nd Saints game.

Not this year. He's playing on the tag. With bonus and incentives, it may go up. Which is fine, we had last I checked like 24 million in space.

Dennis Daley | Carolina Panthers T | NFL and PFF stats | PFF

He gave up 8 sacks and 4 penalties playing ~60% of the of offensive snaps. I'm not saying he won't improve, but if he plays like that all season, we're screwed.

I'd say they were on par. I don't understand why Williams couldn't stay healthy for us and then he plays all 19 games last year for the Bills. If Williams had stayed healthy for us, we would have extended. Do other teams know something about keeping players healthy that we don't?

Stuff I've read has said zone blocking. Daley beating Moton, Erving, BC and Scott for LT would really surprise me. His rookie year was pretty bad, and last year he was out. Daley was at LT for OTAs with the ones so who knows.

With the Moton signing, things aren't any clearer either. I guess we won't know who's LT games start.

Amen.

Yeah. Who ever wins it at camp may not have it game one, then may not have it mid-season, may not have it end of season. Seems like the oline is often musical chairs (except 2015). I'm really surprised you chose Daley. He really has yet to prove he's there.