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I missed that it might be on purpose. I'll need to go watch that again.

The Bad: The oline looked bad. The D couldn't stop the run. The secondary missed assignments (adding Bouye and Henderson may have impacted) Sam turned the ball over and overthrew some deep shots. The footlocker guys ignored a fumble that gifted 6 points (almost 8 if it wasn't for NY) to the boys and cost us whatever we might have scored at that field position. We missed a long field goal. Robbie dropped one and didn't look himself. Rhule is rushing substitutions creating penalties. We wasted timeouts. Some of Brady's play calling looked bad. The Good We led at the half without the opening kickoff, and with the zebras gifting Dallas 6 Chubba, Shi Smith, and Zylstra looked good. We looked better in the RZ. The team regained composure and clawed back in garbage time to within a score and just couldn't stop the run. We were on the road against a good team without CMC and Horn and came with in a score. The historically dominant D we had the first 3 games struggled today. I think as Henderson learns the D and we regain that lockdown corner, that dominant D will return.

The Eagles had 303 yards passing, and 64 yards rushing and 2 TOs.. We need to protect and run the ball, it looks like we will be able to pass. Sam needs a good day. Cmon Sam, good day today.

They're cocky and stupid. Or scared...and should be.

You realize you edited the quote of my post, right? Do you need training on how to use the forum here?

Hopefully. We are easing in Brown and BC the same way we did Moton, so hopefully they'll pan out.

No he wasn't all pro. He gave up 6 sacks in 13 games and was named a reserve at the 2019 probowl. I'm not trying to blame anybody. The flip between pass pro and run blocking success/failure was stark with 80% of the same linemen. We are seeing the same results Brady and Meyer had at their previous positions. The huddle is funny. When the line does respectable in something, we say its the scheme or Darnold helping them out. When the line does poorly, its on them.

The Jets used a first round pick from last year and a first round pick this year and literally have the highest pressure % in the league. The Rams, arguably the best line in football, have the lowest pressure %, with the 4th most pocket time. They have no first round linemen and haven't drafted any in recent memory. They drafted their line in the 2nd, 4th and 5th. They added a 2nd rounder in free agency and traded a 5th with Cleveland for a 2nd rounder.

Great OP.

Haven't you heard? Kamara forgot how to run and the Saints OL forgot how to block during our game and didn't have the the defensive assistant coaches there to remind them how. Poor sobs.

This is great news. He's quiet an tough. That works. Than man speaks with action.

I agree CMC makes something out of nothing. That doesn't explain this year's numbers. We've been bottom of the pile every week in ybc, even with CMC.

Yeah its in the OP. Paradis was starting center in 19. LT was Daley and LIttle (Daley is our current LG btw). RT was Moton. Turner and Van Roten were the guards with an injured Williams moving in and out of the lineup. We were awesome at run blocking and horrible at pass blocking in 19 and then all of sudden it flipped to be top 10 in pass blocking and horrible at run blocking in 20, with many of the same players. Erving and Eiflen weren't here in 20, the decline predates them. The ybc we are seeing is the same Brady had with the 2018 saints and Meyer had with the 2019 chargers.

No one is moving goal posts frankw. Why the drop if ybc from 19 to 20 with many of the same players? The ybc we are experiencing is the ybc Brady and Meyer produced in their previous positions.

So why did the lousy OL, with mostly the same players do so much better in 2019?

We greatly improved in pass blocking from 2019 to 2020, going from 22nd in pressure% to 10th. There is a lot of player overlap. I'm really beginning to think its scheme.

Hartsfield on IR. Looks like he was in rotation. Per NFL Media’s Ian Rapoport, cornerback Myles Hartsfield suffered a wrist injury that requires surgery during Sunday’s victory over the Jets. But the injury is not considered season-ending and Hartsfield is considered week-to-week.

All of this. Darnold is masking deficiencies we basically have one solid starter and the rest are depth though Erving has been ok at times. Paradis however has regressed. We had 58 sacks in 2019, the absolute worst in the league. We had 75 hurries in 2019, that was second worst in the league behind the jets who had 76 that year. We had 3 injured QB's that year. I'm not sure how anyone can complain about this line this year and then say 2019 wasn't bad. We are on pace for 34 sacks this year, and that is with an EXTRA game... over 40% lower than 2019.

Making excuses already. 15 isn't just not quite right, its outright wrong. You do NOT have 15 starters out and listing 2nd string, 3rd string, and PS players so you can do a "who's more injured" contest is so lame. When Elliot, Pollard and Diggs go down, then we'll talk. In the mean time, we're out 3 secondary starters including our first round draft pick, a staring OL man and a rb that 40% of the offense goes thru. I'm hoping we win anyway, and after we win that everyone continues to say what they've been saying all along... ...that we haven't played anyone yet.

In 2019 the Panthers had a YBC/Att of 3.1 and was 3rd best in the league. In 2020 the Panthers had a YBC/Att of 2.1 and was 26th in the league. In 2021 the Panthers have a YBC/Att of 1.7 and are 31st in the league. Why the sudden decline? The 2019 Line was injury riddled with a lot of Little/Daley at LT, Moton at RT, Paradis at C, Turner and Van Roten at G, and Williams going in and out. We had a league worst 58 sacks in 2019 and went through 3 QBs. Maybe its because it hasn't been strength of our coaches: In 2018 the Saints had a YBC/Att of 2.0 and was 30th in the league. In 2019 the Chargers had a YBC/Att of 1.9 and was 26th in the league. Joe brady was not an OC at LSU, he was a passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach. He was at the Saints in 2018, a year the Saints were horrible at YBC/Att. Line Coach Pat Meyer did not do well with run blocking either his last year with the Chargers. I'm not saying our linemen are exempt from the blame here, but our current performance are in line with both coaches past history. The 2019 line has a lot of overlap with this year's line and was nothing spectacular. We often say that we scheme around the line in pass pro, why aren't we doing the same in run blocking, like we did in 2019? I think its not a strength of our coaches. 2019 NFL Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

I agree looking at a single stat is deceptive, you need to watch the games and look across stats. From watching the game, the line seems mediocre and the stats confirm that. From looking at the stats, at least in pass pro, we look slightly below average as well. In any case, we aren't the worst as the graph on this thread would suggest.

@Catsfan69 Our team has had a total of 2 more pressures than the league average. The Falcons have had more pressures than we have, for fewer yards. I'm not saying we have a good line. I'm saying we don't have the worst and that PFF is wrong. Just as Paradis is not a better center than Brian Burns is an edge.

I love the way they like to insult our previous opponents, like the saints, saying they weren't a real test. I wonder what they'll say without the boys.

Could we do to the Cowboys, what we did to the saints?... On the road, without CMC and Horn? Seems unlikely. Dallas is healthier, at home, with a better QB. I think we can squeak it out, 24-21.

Some times you just wanna take em and