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As for building a good line there are many ways to do it. The Rams, have a good line, with one of the lowest pressure %, with a high pocket time. They have no first round linemen and haven't drafted any in recent memory. They drafted their line in the 2nd, 4th and 5th. They added a 2nd rounder in free agency and traded a 5th with Cleveland for a 2nd rounder. The Chargers took a different tack. They drafted a 1st round LT, then added a 1st rounder, two 5th rounders and an UDFA in FA. They lost their FA 1st rounder, Bulaga, after the first game to injury and are now starting a UDFA journeyman from the XFL at RT. So the chargers line is now one 1st rounder, 2 UDFAs and 2 5th rounders.

Moton was a low second round pick from a minor school. He barely played his rookie season, and was given a chance to develop and has turned into good RT. Keeping Christiansen and Brown out during the early and easier part of the schedule makes some sense, giving them time to get up to speed and saving them for the later and more difficult part of the season . I don't think it is necessarily an indication of how good they are, anymore than Moton not playing much his rookie year. I'm sure when BC and Brown play the huddle will attack every misstep, deride and attack them.

sigh. As a sophomore Brady Christensen played against USC, Washington, Utah and Tennessee, and allowed a total of four pressures. In college he blocked 1st rounder Payton Turner from Houston. He was a 2020 consensus All-American, with the best 2020 pass blocking grade among OT in this draft class and allowed two pressures on 293 pass blocking regular season snaps. He faced 1st rounders and p5 teams and excelled. Moton was a very similar draft prospect and has performed just fine. Moton was 64th G from Western Mich U with a RAS of 8.46 BC was 70th T from BYU with a RAS of 9.84 Moton played a grand total of 63 snaps his rookie year. BC looked good in preseason and has only had a handful of regular season snaps so far. When he is ready he may be pretty be good. Brown was the starting guard for ALABAMA. We can play it stupid, like the jets and just throw high draft picks on the line, or we can play it smart.

Injured like Bekton, last years 1st rounder on the Jets, or Vera-Tucker this year first rounder who couldn't play all preseason due to injury? That kind of injured? Or like Tevin Jenkins who we passed on in the 2nd round and traded with the Bears who took him. He has a back injury and hasn't play at all...that kind of injury? You listed AVT first round guard and Jenkins 2nd round OT in your count of linemen drafted in each round that we missed out on.:

Doesn't that apply to Brady Christiensen and Deonte Brown then?

You mean like former 1st round pick Cam Erving?

Jets drafted line 1st round last year. They drafted line 1st round this year. They traded for Morgan Moses with a very high PFF for RT. They have higher Press% than we do and are 2nd in sacks with 16.

Yeah we traded our 2nd round pick. We could have kept that 2nd and got Tevin Jenkins. We traded that pick with the Bears who took Jenkins. Instead we chose Marshal in the 2nd, and with the extra picks, Chuba, Tremble and Nixon. People were pissed we passed on Jenkins. Tevin Jenkins hasn't played a snap due to back injury and the Bears have 16 sacks on the season, 2nd worst in the league.

I guess we were.

I don't have enough info to determine if BC belongs at LT over Erving or Moton, or if BC belongs at guard or RT. I thought when we drafted him that he was going to be our LT. The line is performing worse the last 2 games. I'm sure when Brown and BC finally do get out there, huddlers will be bitching about them. Huddlers love to hate on Panthers linemen. I just want to at least get back to the OL performance we saw in the Jets or Saints games. These last two have been bad.

This is patently false. These stats include pocket time. Yes. Yes you are. smh Ignore back on.

LOL You Ignore all the other stats and just look at pressure% and then talk about context... that leads you to the conclusion that the Falcons have a better line the Saints. Unfortunately the Falcons have a much shorter pocket time and the Saints just have a QB with a very high TT. You honestly believe the Falcon's line is better than the Saint's OL? Read. The. Chart. I included attempts. Your desperate search for ONE number like PFF, or in this case pressure% to evaluate causes you to reach bizarre conclusions. I put the the number of attempts, completions AND YARDS on the chart so you CAN see it in CONTEXT. I know in your mind pressure % includes ALL context. It doesn't. Sacks <> Hurries Pressure% does not include pocket time. Attempts <> Yards I'm not saying pressure % isn't useful....its better than pff, another single number you worship.

Now that is funny. It feels a little like we took him just to stop the Bucs from getting him.

Not in pass pro, where release time matters. We were top 10.

If you actually look at the table you would see that I added the number of attempts and completions just for you. Pressure % is useful but HIDES important data. Pressure % adds sacks, hits and hurries together, as if they are the same thing. They are not.

It having a QB with the 3rd quickest time to throw. Their pocket time is non-existent.

I want to see Daley block a game without Paradis helping him out the majority of the time. They wait a moment for Paradis to help Daley and then they blitz and Paradis is out of position. It leaves Williams on an island by himself and they know which way Paradis is going to block. Same thing in the Jets game. Daley was in for Williams and Paradis went right to help Daley. The only game with our full starting OL was the Saints and the line looked 2x better and it showed in the stats.

It is. He's half their rushing yards.

We had 113 yards rushing, but 35 of those were Sam. Chubba avg 4.4 yds. Compare that to Elliot at 7.2. Our ybc is bad, at the bottom of the league. Our run D shows up this Sunday or we are about to be embarrassed. Eagles have the highest ybc/att rate and more rushing yards than we do. If they run all over us, it will be another long game.

Cmp Att Yds PktTime Sk Hits Hrry League Avg 93 140 974 2.3 9 13 14 Panthers 99 146 1120 2.4 11 16 17 Falcons 108 161 931 2.3 8 20 11 Saints 58 90 576 2.5 7 12 9 Bucs 119 184 1310 1.7 7 5 9 2021 NFL Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com The OL was horrible at Dallas 5 sacks, 6 Hits and 4 hurries (and that hurry number feels low). The OL has performed worse each game. The trendline is NOT good.

Went back and watched. 3rd quarter Melvin played a lot of right corner and looked absolutely horrible. I can't imagine him being better than Taylor. He doesn't just miss tackles he hits other tacklers off the tackle. His coverage is bad. The man is a UDFA who bounced around the league and couldn't make it at the Jags, literally. His bad instincts reminds me of Whitehead, if he played corner. We promoted him from the PS on Sept 27th, are we that thin at corner?

The place is overrun the by Dallass trolls. Mods like it. I'm done here for a while.

I would have pulled the team from the field when they head hunted Cam and there were no calls, over and over and over.

Just the fumble, thats 6 pts Dallas doesn't get and whatever points we might have scored from the Dallas 43. We would have beat them down in the first half, just as we did everyone else. Zebras gotta zebra.

Look, the OPer has probably thousands of posts deriding Darnold. This post lists good and bad. Saying Sam needs to speed up his TT a bit is not hoping he fails. I want Sam to succeed. If he gets his TT down to 2.6, he has a better chance. Now, not ALL of that is on Sam. The OC has to scheme the WR to quick routes, the WR's need to hit those routes with at least some separation and QB coach has to train it. But until we get a line, Sam can protect himself be getting rid of the ball.