micnificent28

I well whatever you want to gage it at. It's the same times that kyler Murray has been clocked at. Show me where norman has been clocked at 22.

I could go to mcshay as well... I mean it's pretty much everyone that has Willis as the number 1 qb at this point. When I draft a guy he doesn't have to be a finished product day 1. However I need the tools you can't coach. If your gambling and everyone is a gamble I always bet on upside.

Based on the times shown at the senior bowl and him running over 20 miles per hour. Ridded ran a what 4.52 and was clocked 2 miles per hour slower than willis.

I think the running style was wad the comp to hurts. Not the speed. Hurts ran about 4.6. I think we all believe Willis is faster than that. The comp was more based on a smaller guy with physical running style.

This is what I love about malik. Mcshay says he immediately would be one of the top 3 runners in the league and in terms of arm strength top 6. The rest you have to coach up and that's some amazing tools to work with. He's not Lamar jackson but he isn't that far off...

I am but ur shaming pops up connected to other quotes u qoute from other people

Bro what is with u and the Willis stalker hate why is opinion believed but chris trappaso not.people have varying opinions

That article says he's not that great a runner

Bro coming into that season plenty had Herbert the number 1 qb before Burrow came out of no where. The Year before so burrow threw 13 touchdowns 5 ints. The kid was 6'6 235 had a rocket and could run. All the tools were there. He just came from a wonky Oregon offense.

Herbert would have went in the hype category he has immense talent just was raw as a passer..

Willis accuracy is very underrated. https://twitter.com/DiBiaseLOE/status/1489356879977492480?s=20&t=yF2aEFtCgQsFMDWZ0WQX5A

Thats based on talent. Not what happens after. Darnold Does have more tools than Strong.

If you look at it like at the time people said dont take cam in the first round he isn't a passer he's a running qb... Blain Gabbert was the more polished ready to start guy. Everyone had Gabbert more pro ready. It's the same betting on upside situation.

It is exactly that.

Not necessarily if they believe Christensen is that guy. You filled the other spots with the free agency acquisitions. But, All that depends on how they feel about Christensen.

Oh yeah I just asked for you

This.... peoples jobs and families are on the line this year.. people thinking like fans think rhule can afford to ignore needs and tepper will accept losing just because this year's class sucks.

sounds like he can play year 1 if needed 2 me...

The Texans basically started Davis Mills all season who isnt nearly as talented as Willis.... he at worst wouldn't look any worse than Zac Wilson or Trevor Lawrence for that matter. These young qbs are learning on the job. Right or wrong they are playing. You already want to lean on a run heavy offense the idea a guy also who helps your run game won't play is absurd. I also think if Rhule drafts a young qb who shows promise for next season that also might save his job and extend his life just on potential hope for next season. If he doesn't draft a qb and loses or misses the playoffs he's toast.

I don't know where the idea of Willis won't play this year comes from. That's a old 20 years ago mantra that is just outdated. These young qbs mostly are playing right away. The way NFL offenses have changed to mimick the college game rpos read option whatever you could get production right away. Especially* the way rhule wants to be a run first team. His throwing ability isn't nearly as bad as you all seem to think. Pickett of course look ready to go and probably would make the better reads and hit the open throws. But there is ceiling on what he can do. He can't make the wow throws. If I'm playing it safe and My team needs a game Manger I go Pickett. You a gambling man need a home run I go Willis. As I have said My preference talent wise is Icky, Neal, and then WIllis.

You brought up Willis not me...

In this specific instance I didn't mention Willis. I'm not even discussing that. What my point is Rhule is playing for his Job this season. He doesn't have a wait on a qb next year and hope he has the number 1 pick to land one of those guys. He has what he has THIS year. We can be fans and discuss what we want. I'm just being realistic and saying if your rhule and you have to win or make the playoffs does waiting on a qb til next year save your job? Do you even care about the Panthers future picks? I think he's more likely to draft a guy and trade back up into the first than bank on next years crop of qbs.

I think if a guy has all pro-upside then he is worth the pick. If the guy has the potential to challenge mahomes and burrow even if he isn't there now you pick him. I know that scares the conservative approach that most of this board has, but you always bet on talent. More times than not. It's what the chiefs did with Mahomes.. and tyreek hill. Talent usually wins out. Play it safe with Hugh floor guys gets you Derrick brown and Shaq Thompson to a degree. Those guys are fine but not teir 1 guys.

So many don't understand this.