micnificent28

This is the one right here... lol

Are you making this a mobile qb vs pocket passser thing? Do you think carson strong is drew Brees?

I mean this guy will be there in the 3rd round at the earliest. He isn't going before Howell and ridder whom I assume will be there in the second. He possibly could be there in the 4th. If we can grab him in the fourth sure.

How man qbs are drew Brees and how many are cam? Two ones in a generation type guys. You can't take a water down guy and say he's drew Brees and you can't make another guy A 6'0 guy cam.

It looked pretty much the same in the senior bowl. Those teams had future first round picks. Equal competition. He will still be faster than the average defensive lineman and most linebackers who aren't freaks themselves. Corners are another matter tho.

Give me a guy with the stuff you can't teach and we will work on the rest. In a league where everyone is the top 3% in the world I'm looking for the guy that's top 1% and use that to my advantage. I don't want a guy who is already at his ceiling and still wasn't the best in college. A good coach will let him do what he does best and then slowly incorporate the more completed stuff as he goes along and learns. You absolutely can play Willis year one and get results by doing what he is already really special at. No other qb really in this draft can say that.

He absolutely becomes a top 5 rushing threat at the position... there won't be 5 qbs in the league you would rather have in a pocket breaking down or rpo situation. That makes him a freak on that alone.looking at his legs and lower base he looks closer to saquon barkley than the typical quarterback. You aren't going to take him down easily with arm tackles. He lead the league as qb with broken tackles. That's a freak. The fact he steps into the league with a top 10 arm is also freaky talent. Like putting all those factors alone together makes him a freak. And I haven't even spoken ridiculous start and stop ability. The guy is a freak athlete at 6'0 230 pound. That's pretty big for a qb at 6'0.

Nobody else as mad as me that D.K Metcalf was sitting right there for free in the second round and we said...meh Greg Little? Arguably a top 5 WR..I was banging the table then and still mad now. Always Gamble on talent and upside...

I hope they do this would be great for them and us... Pickett away saints..

Notice what you said. "I DONT Want my quaterback". That right there blinds you to the possibility of Willis or an other athletic passer. Regardless what you think about cams percentages that doesn't paint the full picture. Yeah 59% but what about the extra 700 yards on the ground and 10 rushing touchdowns? That won't show up in your passing statistic but make up for a few percentage numbers because how many 2nd and longs and 3rd and nothing is open and I picked up 10 on the ground. Cam was a sensational player.. if not for the pocket hit injury we easily talking HOF player as he is on the borderline right or right below as we speak.

And if you agree with a guy with wrong in his name you know your on the wrong side of things.

He absolutely is.. what are u talking about.

I think Willis has a better chance of "becoming" elite than Strong. Your guy is the equivalent of J.J Reddick or Adam Morrison being a factor in the NBA. He simply didn't have any elite traits. There isn't anything he really does better than most players in the league. I admire your outside the box picks but come on bro... Willis is that freak athlete that has all the parts in the box that need assembly.. your guy is missing parts and doesn't even come with instructions. Day 1 Willis would be a top 4 rushing threat at the position and you can scheme around that. Open throws that wouldn't be there dictate to the defense how to play you. Strong doesn't have that floor. Day 1 Willis has a top 10 arm. He can threaten any part of the field...Strong doesn't have that. Willis I believe scored the highest wonderlic in this qb class so saying he isn't smart enough or can't process or learn to get better isn't going to hold up here. During the Senior bowl accuracy test Willis hit the mark more times than any of these guys so beting against him based on college offense or coordinators doesn't really hold weight. This is why scouts scout traits instead of going and looking at the box scores and saying hey thus guy completed 70% of his passes he's the number 1 pick.

I mean penalties and stuff like that can be coached out of a player. A lot of people said the same thing with Horn last season. His aggressive play style the way he likes to get physical and handy might make him a bust in the league because he isn't allowed to play that way in the NFL. That has yet to to be seen but he looks good. Give me a bully that wants to Hurt people any day of the week in a physical contact sport. You have to love what your going out there to do. I want to believe you can coach the bad traits out of them. Physical desire and want...you can't imput that that.

Why does he have to be a loser to not want baker mayfield? I dont want baker and I dont even play for the team. This at best is a lateral move... HE Had god tier Offensive line and weapons with defense in cleveland and sucked.... what do you think he does here?

Yeah but if you want a guy to be protected in the pocket and can't move anyway why does him bring 6'4 matter if he isn't suppose to be getting hit? Yeah it would be nice. If you get to build the perfect prospect but sometimes you gotta accept that all those things are luxury items not requirements. Just like how you feel about a qb being mobile.

And what had Trask done to warrant that.. gotten a offer anyone wanna trade for him has he proven you right? Or is he just a backup? Sometimes a guy is who we thought he was. Not some magical dark horse.

I'm saying your judging qbs on a outdated scale Russell Wilson found success under 6'0, kyler Murray, drew Brees, vick, whoever the height requirement doesn't really hold water anymore with the way the game is played now.

Wasn’t you the one who KNEW Trask was the best qb as well? You an anyone who agrees with you clearly are looking for a lesser talented guy who might pan out but probably won't. Guy isn't going in the first 2 rounders. He is will Grier caliber fools gold. You saw some high gody completion percentage(at Nevada of all places) and said this guy is good. Stats do not=surefire nfl translation. Your over here parading colt brennen like talent around and and saying look they did good in college this is why they will be good in the pros. I'm not asking Willis to be a pocket passer. That's what you want. I want my guy to make plays when needed. Fact is there are throws Willis can make that Strong because of his physical limitations can't. Throwing and running. Guy just doesn't have enough special traits. And when that comes up all you are going to say is his completion percentage which could just mean I check down a lot. A good offensive coordinator can manufacture yards and basically make a qb look better than he is.

The pocket passer... the type of statue can move at all I'm screwed if my reads aren't there sitting duck. Yeah the college ranks don't produce those anymore.

Lol first off production scoring whatever moved the chains. That's what moves games. Call it chicken running or whatever as long as it goes on the scoreboard is all that matters. What makes your 70% completion any less manufactured than his rushing yards on top of his passing stats? NOTHING. Your just measuring by an outdated system. There is a reason the pocket pass is almost extinct because it makes your more vulnerable if things don't go as planned. Everyone isn't brady... or elite between the ears. You using the exception as the standard and that's why your wrong. Strong isn't looked at as a first round talent because he just lacks the traits. Pickett does the things strong does but is more gifted in that aspect.

I'm sorry but Michael Lombardi is just wrong on this one. It's not just the vet vs the rookie qb needed to be factored into this equation

The supporting cast gets better in the NFL as well. You don't get to jackpot the competition and use that as a reason why he will fail and keep him at liberty standards. Coaching and training improves. Regardless, his athletic ability gives him a guaranteed floor none of the other quarterbacks really have while he develops the rest. Just because you completed 70% at Nevada doesn't mean you will do it in the league. The guy doesn't have a lot of elite traits to build apon. Which is why most people don't have him in the first round.

The Willis isnt accurate rant is overstated. His accuracy isn't that bad VrwYSkA97Bajceze.mp4

Not mad at it.. Brian Ballinger on Malik VrwYSkA97Bajceze.mp4