micnificent28

I know it's not 2015.. I know Cam is 32 and the popular opinion is his skills have diminished. But look at the previous two weeks his legs look as alive as ever putting up near the dame rushing averages and his arm maybe not peak cam due to injuries..but he looks more accurate. Just not seeing the popular...he's not the same guy mantra.

On a brighter note..on a sadder note they were without young and Sweat....

I was dead set against the pick. He's a one dimensional player who really isn't even thay goo at stopping the run. Maybe it's our scheme? But basically he's a 3-4 tackle and he's not good at it. Top 10 picks at tackle have to generate a pash rush to validate the pick. We could have gotten a space eater layer if we just wanted a slab to hold the middle. A guy like al woods comes to mind. I was a Simmons guy we give or take has been average to above I stand by the pick.

Curtis Samuel the player is a fine player. I would even make make case I would rather have him than Robby Anderson because he's the bigger threat with the ball in his hands. I have seen him make contested catches run route and separate and ankle breaking yah yardage. All while growing into a wr. He plays out the back field and probably one of the more versatile players we had. When cmc went down he instead of moore would have been coming out the backfield. That said his injury history has been unsatisfactory. He has barely played which is concerning. But nobody really could say he would miss this much time because we haven't seen it this bad. Tough break for Washington. Not sure they overpaid on the talent but for the production most definitely not worth it.

Depends on which one... thats the first one but that hit he took from TJ Watt in the Pittsburgh game definitely messed somethings up that season. So accurate.

You do know that isn't how he got hurt right? It was standing in the pocket behind this line thats already bad. He's never had much issue protecting himself when running. Also no one is saying so it every 4th down but make them think about it and respect it.

I think the opposite is true. Because his days as a true franchise number 1 are over new England used him as strictly a bull dozier and didn't care about him getting banged up last year.

Our line has always been bad. Cam masked those deficiency for years even that super bowl year...

Hidden in all the hype and bells and whistles, I dont think enough attention is put on how this could also help our dreaded short yardage 4th and 1 short comings. We never realized it was a problem until he wasn't on the team anymore. During his tenure we had one of the highest 4th and short conversion ratios in the league. I think it will be nice not to have to hold my breath on 4th and short hoping brady calls a tightend reverse or something cute for us to get a yard.

Define the answer? Qb1 for the next 10 years? Probably not... can he be for the next 2-3 years to get us out if this no draft picks saga. Sure.

Same thing it ment for kapernick..the best players available isn't the one that always gets the call. Lot of moving parts going on we aren't privey 2.

No. He looks fine in a bill belicheck lead offense. Not this we have 1 decent lineman scheme we have. He would get eaten alive and David carred before season end.

I thought it was slant king..

Even factoring all that in giving up points is a team statistic.. that has to do with stopping the run rushing the passer and secondary. I'm just trying to debate I guess on the talent perspective. Talent wise I don't think we Hve ever fielded what 3-4 guys drafted first round(Jackson second). On paper these guys have the chops to run with anybody.

Well matching that Gilmore= corner that won 2019 defensive player of the year AJ bouye= former pro bowler(that's great right?) Jackson( he's a number 1/2 at worst gonna get paid) Horn( looks the part could be as good as anyone on this list) Henderson( top 10 pick last year atleast gotta be serviceable) Taylor (has been showing up a lot I'm impressed making splash plays) Chinn ( Chinn is just a good player haven't seen any if many mistakes) Burris/Franklin/ Hartsfield( guys show up every now and then but get hurt I think they are better than what we had during Ron era)

I was going for a by talent measurement not the actual weekly rankings which could change for various reasons, injuries pass rush and so on. But on paper the depth at corner is night and day as to what it use to be or even at the start of the season. A weakness turning to a strength.

Well we just added Gilmore to the mix seeing him for the first time not sure stats will reflect it yet. Not to mention 2 of the guys I mentioned are injured.

I mean we all know the offense is a train wreck.. which on paper at the start of the year it was omg weapons everywhere hyped. I was just speaking on defense.

saying I don't think we have ever had these options at corner... At best we had who Chris gamble? And lower teir guys. . Gilmore has won defensive player of the year. Jackson is a legit corner he gonna get paid this off-season.Bouye has been to a pro bowl. He's had teaming calling for a trade last week since we was losing. Horn looked like a cornerback 1 when he was healthy.. I mean Henderson hasn't been healthy so I m gonna leave a * by his name. Even the you guy the rookie Taylor has made a few plays... not to mention Chinn... what say you.. .

I mean this only works vs bad teams that cant stop the run... Not like Hubbard has much wiggle or anything to him to make the difference. Then at some point you have to be able to pass. I think this wont work vs the bucs or so. Atlanta has never had a Defensive first priority. But Props are in order for making these guys look decent no sacks allowed.

Debate isn't about the issue... we know what the issue is. This is just something else to discuss besides Sam darnold and our offensive line woes.

Thread derailed by Herbert enthusiasts...you understand the assignment sir.

Not sure reddick is like Simmons as Simmons can play safety and cover... reddick is mostly a pass rusher..

Herbert wasn't available to us so it's kinda irrelevant...

Can't disagree with your logic there... touche snake.... carry on..