micnificent28

Josh Norris has the same thing

What does that mean burrow couldn't compete at Ohio state either and had to transfer...

I think you were in the marcel dareus camp if I remember correctly? You take me as a very safe guy. I don't think think there is a sure fire stud in this qb class.. so instead of aiming for a base hit with Pickett why no go for the guy with the highest upside?

People are acting like this is all just pro day hype and throwing vs air.. but he out performed the field at the senior bowl as well. Most people had him qb1 https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2022-senior-bowl-qb-power-rankings-malik-willis-sam-howell/

Well he was also qb1 coming out of the senior bowl as well. Everyone seems to think so

Willis is qb1 don't @me about Pickett...

Gantt keeping it real

About 9 1/2

What lol

The thing is Mel is doing his mock based on where he has guys evaluated with their talent and the team with the need. I think he has Willis and picket near the 20s in terms of talent but need pushes qbs up a good bit. Was he allowed to project trades which are probably going to happen? I think he's just giving you a natural mock without trade and based on where he has guys going according to his value.

Pickett is able to run but doesn't really Excell at it. I think he's about what burrow is as a runner. Willis is thicker built. Breaks tackles and as a runner probably is closer to hurts..

They all are considered mobile duel threats are they not? I mean at what point do you draw the line... you have to be Lamar jackson fast to be a running qb because he and kyler are likely the only qbs with that kind of speed in the league.

Wilson. But like I said super bowls and wins are a team statistic. Like another person said if we just saying super bowls measure qbs then Eli is better than Payton. Dan Marino wasn't a good qb because he never won a super bowl. Lamar jackson hasn't won a super bowl but he is won 3 times as many games as he has lost. He is a building block and a part of the puzzle. People wrote him off because he was a running qb and was taken at what 31-32?

What does he has to I gain from running? Only negatives. If he runs slower than expected his stock takes a hit. If he runs a 4.4 or so all people going to do is say he's a running qb or he can play rb some The Golden Calf of Bristol hybrid role package nonsense. Kyler didn't run.. people just accepted he was fast. Lamar didn't run...people just accepted he was fast..

Most qbs drafted in the first play year one. Especially if there are no better options ahead of them. What's a better teacher than learn on the job. He can't look much worse than Wilson or Lawrence I say.

That isn't how scouting works. You look at film of Willis vs say macaroon state.. that doesn't tell you as much as him throwing to nfl caliber players and seeing him vs = competition. Can he make all the throws? Because on tape his offense was a 1 read and go. Can he do and process more if asked? That's what these are for.

Ok this I agree 100% on. I just think a qbs success and winning a championship isn't 100% on them as many people think. People like to say newton not winning a super bowl is because he wasn't good enough as a passer when other factors like Byron bell and the other horrible tackle came into play. Winning a championship is a team effort. Not having elite wrs who can help a qb matters. Having a cmc like back matters. Having say von miller on the other side matters. Elite shut down CBS. Its not all on the qb to win a game.

Where would you place cam. Because most people would say then and now he couldn't pass.

I mean most of you guys are older. And I get that. It's hard to see that the league you love so much is evolving. The fact is MOST of the top qbs in the league right now are mobile qbs. The age of the pure pocket passer is over. With the evolution of these pass rusher today it is out of necessity.

Bet you didn't complain when he turned those surefire 3 and out situations into a first down. Again mobility has its ups and downs. But having more options is never a bad thing. Being able to run is seen as a great attribute to have in today's league. Look at most of the top qbs. From kyler, to mahomes Jackson, burrow to a degree, Herbert, Josh Allen they all can run. The age of the statue is dead. You just need to accept it.

I think he's faster than cam.

Having the offense focused around them absolutely is. Plenty of rushing qbs were written off before this new wave. Or forced to play HB or wr. All the way up to say Marcus vick(Vicks brother headcase I know) but if he came out in this class I dout people would say he can't play qb.

Did Lamar jackson run a 40? Or kyler Murray? Fact is running a 40 as a qb doesn't benefit you at all. All it does is fuel the... he could be a wr or hb hype.