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I'm curious what this signing means for our wide receiver room as a whole things are getting pretty chaotic someone who was here last year won't be here next year especially if they go into the draft and bring out another wide receiver horn laguette Tremaine and we resign Dave's favorite wide receivers/specialteam player

I would send leggette and maybe a 5-6

Your not taking a significant risk if you can get the guy after round 3. Matter of fact you shouldn't see him playing at all(outside QB sneaks and gadgets) unless something goes horribly wrong like Bryce goes down. At that point season is lost anyway. If you draft the best athlete possibly at the position ever that ability buys you time on a roster to develop the other tools. Athleticism is a safe floor for QBs.. can't find the right read? Run.. can't throw completely sucks run.. 70% of NFL QBs don't have that safety net. I'm saying take a late round pick get the superhuman and develop the guy see what happens your not banking on him taking Bryce job.. your banking on his floor which is better than any QB not Cam Newton or Michael Vick. Again taller and faster than all not Vick. Arm is in the same ball park. Except your not paying a premium pick to get the guy he isn't going where Vick Newton or Richardson is going. But he's better than Jalen Milrose right now. If I can get that in a horrible QB class for peanuts, I don't want to hear he's not ready to start or his passing needs work.. well yeah he's a day 3 pick. But his upside is higher than anyone in the class if you catch lightning in a bottle that's what late round picks are for. If he sucks it didn't cost you any thing but a damn pick you would have spent on say Jaden crumedy

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Thank you.. I don't see why this is such a outrageous idea.. it's not like your wasting a round 1-3 pick on the guy.

And conservatives like you is why we didn't have a guy to do that last year because your afraid to invest a pick 4-7 which isn't even guaranteed to make the roster on long term talent. Those picks are lottery picks where your suppose to swing on talent. Nobody is expecting a 5th rounder to start maybe not even contribute day 1. But in this specific case he would help day 1 this is really a dumb argument to have.

None of those players offer Greens arm talent or 4.3 speed. Let's be honest CMC ran a 4.48. god doesn't make many 6'6 230 humans that run a 4.3 and have a rocket arm. His floor is QB sneaks and gadget plays. The legs but him roster time to develop. You telling me I can get that not using a premium pick from runs 4-7 I say why the hell not? Your saying you don't draft a player like that because you can find that somewhere else I'm telling you there isn't a single player in the NFL right now that is that big and that fast period. Name some at any position that is 6'6 and runs a 4.3?

I think everyone in here is looking for somebody to eventually replace Bryce. I am looking for a 4th and 1 QB sneak type guy to hold the clip board. Not being Able to get short yardage was a huge flaw last season a struggle to get without some trickery because we can't run the most basic concept because of our QBs size. This is the answer to that. If u can get him from rounds 4-7 I think it's a win and adds to your win totals most likely. Not just some corral who would never take a snap. This is something so simple he could do day 1. Anything you get out of him developmentally is a positive but I'm not expecting him to be Bryce answer anymore than we should have expected 38 year old Andy Dalton to be.

How is he less athletic with a faster 40.

I think he has the advantage vs nickel and safeties as well. How many safeties run 4.3 can cover 6'3 and have 42 inch vertical. If he's a 19 this is really a no brainer. His blocking isn't as bad as some of the guys forced to be slots either. I m not even sure he makes it to 19 at this point

Humans are flawed. I got the injury wrong and plugged in the information wrong. So it was right in what I said to it but the injury I said was wrong that was my mistake.

I think Jones becomes a cat casualty but by all means I love goldday I have him and Rodriguez's second round targets in my eyes first round I'm swinging for the fences on talent

I agree 100% with most of what you said I can't justify treading up in 2026 with 2027 being a generational draft class that said there are some guys that I would love to have on the team I just can't justify the price of trading up but if you want to trade compensation in this draft to move up then sure why not because I think there's a sweet spot towards the late first through third round where the guys that are great are right in there after that it's a dead zone so by all means have at it

I asked chat GPT about the injury if you scroll back a few posts and posted the results but it said that PCL long-term is better there should be no lingering effects so it shouldn't have a long-term effect on his career so I don't think you should look at it as he won't be the same player it's much more preferred over having an ACL injury which does change your long-term trajectory so I think if he's only going to miss maybe half the season or less you're better off getting a veteran or drafting a guy later to feel that stopgap until he returns to full form Also believe it or not the recovery time for PCL is shorter than an ACL tear so give me that nine times out of 10. Looking at the time frame I think he starts to season on the PUP list but after that he should be a go

So the fact that he was already projected in the first round says he is an elite talent by your argument. This is before the combine numbers. He was already a first round lock that says elite tight end by your measurement. Is he some blocking type player no.. but he is in the Pitts territory of elite H back split type guy. His blocking also isn't as bad as your making it out to be he shows effort and adequate ability. He isn't Sadiq "the freak" for any reason. He's been on NFL radars since before the season. How many "Freaks" or elite athletes do the Panthers have on their roster? You need game changing guys to put odds in your favor I think. Outside McMillan or Brown I say 0 and even McMillan might not qualify because his size is the only thing elite. He doesn't run 4.3 with 42 plus vertical like this kid, after the combine we would be lucky if he is on the board like what are we even talking about?

Okay so I'm gonna slow down and just talk about the ickey injury. Since I'm not a doctor I asked chatgpt if I was a NFL which injury would you rather have.

To add context. I Think it's worse today like if two people had both injuries at the same time. One ACL the other ruptured patellar. Like you would be worse off trying to live regular life in the short term with ruptured patellar getting around. But I haven't seen where it's always wearing down and the risk of aggravating it and reinjuring it are as high as say a ACL. Also I don't think the recovery time is as long as an ACL injury.

Probably I feel the same way just don't understand the sentiment of if he's on the board let's trade down or he's not worth it ignore trade out if this guy is there

I look at this the Opposite. From a talent perspective i think we are Better. IF* and I say this as a if because health permitted. Brooks is better than rico and he's better than Chubba. He would be the most talented running back we have had since Jonathan Stewart. He's big fast catches runs breaks tackles he's a true RB1 when he's healthy. I think for that reason alone you don't spend on Rico if anything maybe some older veteran in free agency

I think like lingering issues. You don't want Jonathan Brooks part 2 where you hold your breath Everytime he goes down. I am not a doctor but I don't think it's a will never be the same like degenerative thing like ACLs can be

I don't think you can compare any of those guys to Sidiq. Like none of them demand coverage. None of them are anything before or after the catch. Sidiq is. At the 19th getting an elite player at one aspect of anything is rare. Can you find starters at 19 absolutely. But can you find the fastest player ever at the position at 19? No that would be a blessing.

I mean I think he offer more value than a traditional backup because day 1 he comes in on sneaks something we don't have. Day 1 he could be used in goal line packages and red zone runs. We just finished a season with zero ability Dalton as a backup and at the least this kid can run. If he shows more than that you ship him out of here for a small bounty and consider it a win. Most teams don't carry 3 QBs so those days of developmental project stash are over. He's probably moved himself into round 3 consideration. He's better than Jalen Milrose.. that's the bar.

Only in short term. Not long term.

Hey I'm not disagreeing with you it's the market. You have to look at what starting QBs are making. If he is being signed as your starting day 1 QB can you pay him less than 25 a year? I don't think so. Also I don't think your signing him past 2 years so to speak so 30-35 guaranteed sounds about right to me.

This isn't a ACL tear. I would say his chances of returning to form are great. Maybe he won't be 100% this year but I don't think this injury should change his career trajectory. How is 6'4 42 inch vertical invisible?