Diehardpanth02

Accepting defeat is not an attribute that’s relevant to a fan. Player maybe, yeah I think they wanna win. but as a fan this product ain’t good enough to be Atlanta from my observations we can’t stop the run, and we can’t score. They run the ball well. And get the ball out quick just not a good match up

We are losing to Atlanta. Just face it

Because Bryce sucks. QB is THE most important position on the field and we have the worst possible option in the league.

If he even did that we win this game today, but he poo his pants everytime he felt pressure. The refs tried to give him that one and he couldn’t even get a completion

That’s the crazy part too. Because we just need Bryce to not be absolute cheeks. And we can’t even get that. its frustrating.

I think it suck’s all together. Because we all wanted it for Bryce. And I don’t think any more so than he did for himself at all. But when you watch this Sunday night game with Ravens and Bills. It’s clear, guys like Lamar and Josh Allen are just in a different stratosphere. What we all thought would be Bryce isn’t it. Even old heads like Rodger’s still out here dicing up defenses, and it just seems like the game is too big for Bryce. Going from a guy like Cam, you can just see that big men win football games. And if you small you better be quick af. hopefully he can turn it around, I mean quick too. I’ll be watching in Arizona, but I won’t be expecting much that’s for sure.

I think they just play different rolls. Run formations is tremble passing downs is JT. Running a two TE set can be helpful too and it’s not like Tommy is terrible at running routes. I think we’re just better with them both

Zero signs of life is a stretch there was a lot of energy early and we won the entire first half with what was likely the guys in the middle of the roster and very little starters. Our back-up QB is a problem and we still need to find something LBs. but overall tonight was the first game I saw life. After the 3rd quarter those are the last guys up on both rosters

Because the results have been bad. But I'm with you here, to be honest I think he's done pretty well with the personnel he's been givin. When he has studs, and a healthy roster he usually puts together a good defense. And also, I think sticking with some continuity is huge for us. We have had enough changes, let it ride and work through the growth before canning people

Idk I wouldn't be so sure.

Totally fair take. I think if you pursue roster building first before the QB situation then when you find your guy it'll help them to be in a successful position is all that I mean. And especially when you do not have a large QB contract in the way.

How does it not make sense? Build the roster around the QB you blew your load on. Let it pan out while you build the roster around him and have him on a cheap deal. And when the opportunity arises you should be able to plug a good QB and see big results if Bryce doesn't pan out

Looks like he can do both.

Idk. I just saw a video of Mason graham eating. And I got to thinking about a defensive line with him and Derrick Brown in the middle. And how dangerous that would be. Instantly helps our run defense. Interior pressure kills even the best qbs

I would agree with this. Chuba should have had more touches early, I mean he dipped on a 40 harder like his 2nd or 3rd touch. We abandoned it for the screen passes bc Dalton was getting pressured. It's a learning curve though, and as for Everyone. Dude doesn't have anything but his Dbs left. Our Defense is all injured.

Not to beat a dead horse, but what did we expect? We sold the farm to Chicago for Bryce. We spent 3 years worth of assets for him. It's common knowledge, we got bent. Only thing we can do is just wait. We all knew it wasn't our year, and if we face a good defense we have no shot. Our defense can't stop a booger from getting through the tissue. And offensively we are just not that great. Prayers for tremble, hopefully next time he doesn't try and truck stick with his head. At this point what is even worth getting worked up for? Just hopefully we can find some talent and hold on to it instead of giving it away for nothing.

Who the fug cares. I'm sick of this team playing for draft picks it's time we stop sucking balls and go be competitive. We were never a team that cares about early round picks, and the best teams in the league draft late and still manage to compete every year. This take is weak. Small minded and pussified.

This should change the perspective people use to have against Cam and his completion percentage, and doubting his ability to throw. He had ass receivers and an oline and pushed the envelope. The guy we got now is a toddler in comparison but hey, he's 80% today right?

Rebuild is what teams who are steaming hot dog poo say to make an excuse for perennial suckage. New England managed to win ball games after generations of Brady. Tampa is doing it. Pittsburgh is making it work. This aint no rebuild. This is what we are. The worst Franchise in the NFL and at this pace may end up being the worst one in history if it wasn't for Delhomme and Cam we wouldn't even be worth the money to market this franchise. I'm done with it. Even on some of our down years we have pieces that make it fun to watch. Having a -50 differential in the first half of two games is insane. And no plays over 20yds. A defense that can't do poo. Just cycling through coaches that suck are as gimmick as they get. A greedy owner. There's nothing here worth being invested in.

Hate is an understatement

Despite money, I think most people forget that they are still human beings. I doubt the only reason he aspired to be a pro was for the money alone. I do get what your saying though. It's hard to feel bad for someone who's getting paid millions to be terrible at their job.

The dude is absolutely terrified. It's kind of sad to watch, I feel bad for the kid. This franchise squashed everything he ever knew about football.

I understand this sentiment. But at the same time, with the right pieces in place the 3-4 can be just as effective. But you need really good linebackers and edge guys in that system. And they have to be players that can adapt to different roles. The simplicity of the 4-3 makes it effective. When the 3-4 is set up right, it can be more effective if the coach is creative with his pieces. It's more adaptable in pass/run scenarios. Where the 4-3 can be exposed in 3 receiver sets, and forces you to go nickel. That's where Ron lost a lot of games bc the Nickelback would get exposed. Think the falcons game when they kept marching up Julio against Bene Benwickere. The 3-4 can bring a safety in the box play single high and run any zone coverage from there. So it really is just a system, the Individual matters so much more than the system.

Here is my view of the new hire. It's been a while, since I've seen a coach that actually seems to have something between the ears. Even Ron and John( sounds like a place to get some crablegs) coached more on a heavy defensive influence with an offensive strategy that was traditional. I see Canales being able to not re-invent the wheel, but adapt to the situation. Something we have never seen from a coach. Another thing I like so far is his ability to speak. I could see the players listening, and learning more with a guy like this. The pro game is cerebral and I think we finally have a coach with a brain. One that is young, interested in proving himself, which should keep him on his toes and motivated which then will rub off on the team. I'm optimistic, cautiously of course, bc well, Panthers gone Panthers. But if we can get some talent on this roster, I think he is a guy that could lead us to some wins again.

If I'm Frank, and that is the case I would most definitely call out every bit of hypocrisy that came out from this. Only part about that though, is that he probably doesn't want to say anything that would make Bryce seem worse than his film has looked.. none of this is really his fault IMO. He has some blame for his lack of improvement, but coaches and those that surround him haven't offered him many bail outs.