Diehardpanth02

Coker has been really good and I really enjoy watching him play. He’s strong to the ball and makes those contested catches on crucial downs. He’s save our tails more times than I can count this year. And seems like a perfect compliment to TMac. If we can get Jimmy more involved I think this trio could be good going forward if we get a Qb that can be aggressive down the field and an OC that ain’t scared to feed them. zero drops is crazy

You know my take on this I think it’s even more stupid than we thought. If you watch Tmac is sitting in the hook spot, and jimmy was coming around in motion. I hope to god he didn’t call a flee flicker with a hook and lateral off of it.

You awfully tough behind a keyboard talking about a game. i bet in person it’s different.

Only one I’d be interested in that list is Malik. But it’s doubtful that Green Bay lets him go after his showing this year. the rest don’t make us any better than we are with Bryce. bring in the competition though and see who earns the spot that I’m on board with

24/35 266 2 TD 1 int 98 passer rating in a monsoon. this is a team sport. In all honesty im most frustrated with the refs and Dave’s conservative play calling and the stupid flea flicker. im fatigued from trying to explain to folks that Bryce ain’t the answer but we shouldn’t cut ties until we know we have his replacement. its like quitting a job before finding a new one then wondering why your house ends up in foreclosure. I just don’t want to make the same mistakes we did with cutting Cam, Sam, and Baker all to soon when they all still had some tread left.

You know if you could read I have clearly stated that I don’t see a Bryce as a long term answer but more of a stop gap. but I would venture to say you probably didn’t wanna hold on to darnold or baker either. This is the first season for Bryce and Dave with any continuity. And out of the two one showed progression. Inconsistency is the problem with Bryce but again, I’d rather save money and keep him one more year to draft some LB’s and Pass rushers and draft some young QB talent to compete rather than going out and paying 20 mill for minshew. only other option is to trade Bryce for picks and cut our losses. But that sets us back further bc we won’t get nothing out of him. so while your over here spewing hot garbage and not offering anything that resembles a solution, or general topic for debate the rest of us adults can have a legitimate conversation without talkin out of their ass.

That’s where I disagree is all that I’m saying. Bc who can we sign as vet in the offseason that would be significantly better than Bryce? why not save our resources that we would spend to sign a retread, keep the QB cost down, keep building the roster and looking to draft his replacement. the part that sucks though is that I don’t believe they do that. They will keep him and not even try and attempt to bring in competition because that’s just what they do in Carolina. the writing is on the wall for Bryce, he’s improved and done enough to roll into next season as the starter until we find someone better.

You need to learn reading comprehension. never once have I said Bryce is the guy. only that we need to find a guy to take his spot before we just cut him. but sure say what you want. I honestly have no idea why I even respond to folks like you who can’t use critical thinking skills and allow the hate of one individual to override simple football talk

This is my point all along. draft a guy to take his position and find a coach with some Fuggin common sense

Again not shooting from the hip. Raising the idea that Dave is more the problem than Bryce. And it’s been obvious week after week. look I’m not defending the guy only trying to say that we would be better off holding the dude until we find a replacement rather than spending capital on a retread. id rather dump Dave than Bryce is all that I’m saying. At least for next season that is. The noodle arm doesn’t give me confidence, but calling flea flickers on the 25 has me livid and everyone wants to bash Bryce when stupid pop like that happens. The hate is in the wrong place IMO

There is alot of football in that post. But I’ll do better. saying I’m low IQ bc I wanna hold a qb long enough to replace him is equivalent to quitting your job before finding another and wondering why you default on your mortgage and go into foreclosure. so in my defense, I’m retaliating with sense, against blind stupidity and hatred of a guy who doesn’t warrant that right now. Bryce didn’t call a flee flicker on the drive to go ahead and win the division

We kick a fg instead of try a flee flicker on the 25 we win that game. that’s the frustrating part. You don’t always gotta win pretty. but the Dave and Bryce offense has not bread a lot of confidence that I can agree with. i just feel that’s more on preparation of the coaching staff than anything. You can’t expect to win playing in a 4 yard window

Is that your IQ? No poo dummy. It’s an 11 man game and guess who contributed to those 14 points you tard. hate him all you want I really don’t care. I recognize what he is. As of right now, based on what he’s shown he is a low end starter or quality backup. We hold him until we replace him and hope he improves or we get his replacement quickly. But Dave is more of an issue imo than Bryce. you have your weak ass opinion and I have mine

Imo that’s preparation on the coaches part. The two TDs we had this game were passing TDs from the guy everyone hates. Look I know he’s got his limitations and I don’t see him being our guy long term. I’ve said all along to bring in talent around and keep him while he’s cheap and bring the competition and if he’s as bad as most say he will lose his job to a better guy. what I don’t want is a retread vet like Russell Wilson. Just ask Pitt and Denver how that worked out for them. But you know what, they drafted guys while they stuck it out with some dude they knew wasn’t the answer

You talking about his first two seasons with two different coaching staff and offenses? Bryce is progressing. And look if you wanna say I’m Low IQ go for it idgaf. I never said he was a franchise guy. Only that he’s worth holding for one more season bc dumping him for a vet retread is stupid. Keep him, build around him. Draft QBs for competition and if he’s as bad as you say he is when the opportunity arises he will lose his job like he did his rookie season. if you wanna blame this game on Bryce then your the one that’s ignorant. He played well today, better than baker in fact. We lost because the coaching staff acted like a bunch a bishes, refs making bad calls and Dave doesn’t even bat an eye. but go off queen. Your the football guru huh?

If it’s bc the opposing defense is running prevent then how do you explain the deep ball working? it works bc we ran an aggressive style offense after floundering around all game playing 4 yard football in hopes to keep getting by with a 4th and 1 dive play. If I know the play calls from the couch what do you think a DC whose paid to do this professionally thinks?

The stupid part about you folks that wanna hate on Bryce is that he is serviceable. Go back and watch film. Dave doesn’t do him any favors. Do I believe for certain Bryce is the answer hell naw, but should we hold the year 5 until we can find a replacement or at least competition yes. the coaching has left my head scratching all year long. Every situation where we are forced to be aggressive it has panned out for the most part. Hence Bryce leading the league in game winning drives. the problem is the coach waits until last minute to try and push the issue. And all game long Bryce is left with nothing but short yardage dump passes bc Dave is to scared to take a shot. 16 passes all season long completed past 15 yards. That’s a scheme problem. I’d venture to say the attempts or even the schemes were even more alarming. the jury is still out on Bryce for now IMO. Is he a world beater naw, but he showed progression this season. You know who didn’t? dave Canales and ejiro evero.

I’d rather “shackle” another coach to Bryce until we can find his replacement rather than cut him loose to watch him go to a capable coach and win. Like baker and Sam. we need to tell Dave to find an OC to call plays or go find somewhere else if he wants to stay if not cut him out right. And as much as our defense has saved us I’m ready for evero to go to. How many times do we have to watch us get beat on 3rd and long to a screen or a run play before pressing coverage and at least making the offense earn it before we try something different.

It can’t be on anything other than play calling. We start taking chances bc we have to and look what happens every game that we have one was bc we were forced in a position to throw the ball down the field. dave plays with a tight butthole bc he’s terrified

How can you count this game on Bryce? honestly, the interception is the only bad play. But a good coach that knows your QB struggles being on time on a deep out maybe don’t try that Fuggin play. other than that he played great today. And gave this team an opportunity. The scheme and the ideas this offense tries to run is so counteractive to the abilities of this team. We have big receivers, take a Fuggin chance so they don’t sit on the out route the maybe it works? how about instead of running a gap all game and getting stuffed try a counter, a stretch or a lead off tackle. I can show you countless times where Dave forces the game to be played in tightwindows and refuses to take a shot to keep the defense on their heels. the stupid flee flicker or fumble whatever the hell it was is a prime example. The next drive down Bryce throws a dime to Coker to score and give us a chance. the Bryce hate is fine, but Dave plays a part. Bryce can hold it down until we find another guy, but Dave is a bigger problem IMO.

Lost to the saints twice. lost to the seahawks lost to the bucs IMO it’s all on Dave canales. I know the refs had played their part. But the conservative play calling continues to bite us in the a$$. You can’t wait until the last 5 mins of a game to take a shot. I know there is a ton of Bryce haters on this board and at moments I’ve been one. But I think when you go back and look at the season Dave forced him to play in a 10 yard box all season under pressure. Runs when we need to pass, pass when we need to run. Gets fancy when the basics are beating the defense. Evero also play 15yards off the ball in 3rd and long. We are 8-9 and counting on the mfn falcons to win bc the coaching staff is scared shitless to take a chance. this is by far the most frustrating season I’ve ever witnessed bc we had the ability to win the division but couldn’t get out of our own way. I’m not optimistic as long as Dave Canales controls the game. No matter who’s under center or who is on the roster. Dan has some holes to fill this offseason but he’s building a sound roster now get somebody in here that knows wtf to do with it. also the refs can go get fugged by Vegas zero hope in charlotte even when there should be. 8-9 is an improvement from last year but a let down from what the potential was

Dave is 1000% the problem. He waits until last minute to try and take a shot. I don’t even believe Bryce is the problem anymore. Go try and play QB on madden forced to play in a 10 yard window with pressure and nothing but check down routes. bryce has had me livid in moments but when he’s free to play something good happens more often than not. I’m good with the 5th year, but Dave has got to wake tf up or gtfo

Prob the worst call I’ve ever seen in pro football. we were dicing them up too

To be fair that’s on Bryce more than anything. If he knows that’s happening get that foot out of there pre-snap

I think that’s the point you’re missing. We have a young nucleus that can step into many roles and perform. Which is what you said we lacked for years once we lost our vets. Now we can look for impact players through free agency and draft and focus on the more important aspects that make us a good ball team. We are fighting for a division title without that. So this off season is really the one that is the biggest for us. If we hit on 2 or 3 impact guys. This is a brand new and improved ball team. lets not act like the rookies and young talent we’ve got, isn’t going to be big in helping us get to the next level. The best teams have talent through the whole 53 and even the practice squad.