Diehardpanth02

This is a reach. Saying he is a non factor in the run game is total BS. Dude has made a noticeable difference in the run game than what we were without him on the field. Not to mention his effort is unquestionable. He’s a rookie that looks to be improving and that’s promising. He does leave more to be desired in pass rushing situations though

Honestly we should bring him on just not on a full extension. We need to keep building around the QB position and keeping the QB contract low while we do it. Then keep looking for the franchise guy. sometimes you have to ride the serviceable back up until you find your guy.

I don’t know why we don’t take a look if we get this first. They’re playing the chains on us. we burned them with legette no reason not to try for a quick fade shot

That was probably the weakest catch I’ve ever seen from a TE.

I think canales has done a decent job and I’m interested in seeing what he can do with one more year. If we struggle again, then that answers our questions

He’s been every bit as much of the problem as anyone else. You cant remove him from that fact, he is just as much part of the team and in THE most important position on the field. But this is the first season he’s seen any kind of continuity in his team and coaches. And he’s shown flashes here and there. But we do need more out of him going forward a lot more if we are going to be successful

To be fair he kind of does. QB gets all the glory in the wins and all the poo in losses. It comes with the job.

You right the money does cause an issue but right now you build around the QB and keep drafting at the QB position as you said to find that rookie that can elevate your team. And play with the game manager for now. I still believe had we just stuck with cam, Sam or Baker and just rode out one of them while rebuilding the roster by the time we decided to draft our guy we would be set. Be the previous FO and staff was trash. And blew money left and right on guys that didn’t work out in the draft and in free agency. Letting good guys walk and keeping duds. The current path seems good. Keep plugging holes while Bryce is still on his rookie contract bring in a good back up to press him and when the opportunity arise go and get the game changer. but who knows how they’ll pay these guys. We have to pay icky, we can get out of the Chuba contract after year one I’ve read can’t confirm tho. But the money can be shuffled and we still are in the positive in cap space too. So a lot to be hopeful for

Thank you. I’m so sick of hearing people say you can’t win by running the ball well, playing great defense and with a ball control mindset. There have been so many teams win with that formula. poo the best year as a franchise we did exactly that. And the more successful we are doing that the more it opens up the pass game. cam Averaged 1 passing TD and 1 int with somewhere in the 200s yds passing per game throughout his tenure. His TD total rushing was about one per game as well plus that yardage. He was very talented at throwing but we didn’t beat people with his arm. We beat them to a pulp in the run game and with an aggressive defense. this whole idea that you gotta throw for 3 tds and 300+ yards per game to be successful is crazy. That fails every time you face a good pass rush, bad weather or injury. A good run game can play through all that

Not typically but you know if that offends you I hope the best for you. Because in terms of insults that’s about as soft as it gets

Ah poo; you’re right. I did forget that it could be as many as 3 from one division for the 7 seed. so what the NW takes 5? And we may have a shot against tampa

We don’t have to worry about the North right now. We just need to beat the NFC least and we have the head to head against Dallas. So long as NY and Washington stay dwelling we will be the third divisional wildcard at a minimum. If not NFC south champs if we split with Tampon Bay and win a few more we “weren’t supposed to”

Was just explaining this to some dummy named Willy in another thread. I think he was just smoking’ too much cheese. This has been going on for ages. Trent dilfer got all the ladies and threw just as many interceptions as he did see dem TDs. This was the more violent era of football. The soft mfrs wanna see the passing TDs but the truth is that ain’t what ultimately wins football games. It’s a STRONG D, and an unstoppable run game, with some passes to keep the defense honest, if for a TD great. in fact I would venture to say that the two panthers super bowls consisted of the same except cam threw more tds than interceptions and could run like Jamal Lewis and priest Holmes. its a tale as old as time. Something all ball knowers understand.

You’re not, you’re relying on both your QB, your run game, Your defense and your special teams. hence the part where I explained that limiting time of possession by playing ball control offense and defense has been a winning formula in football for a century. sorry.. should have clarified more for the simpletons

The crazy thing about football is it’s a team sport. But one position can make or break the game. And one of the best ways in doing that is by not giving the ball away and being able to run at 4-5 yard clips. Throw in a couple passes and next thing you know you’re in the red zone. Playing this way limits possessions to other(more dynamic) QBs too. And if your defense plays well that could equate to between 4 and six series. If you’re running that efficient, you can say, split the offensive production with the run or the pass. So by attempt byce accounted for his half of the yardage and Rico did too. Rico also managed to punch it in at the goal line. And you gotta give it to our oline and they’re running blocking and that’s without TMO! so the truth is, Canales and management figured out how to use Bryce’s strengths to compliment this run game to cover up his weaknesses in a way that is efficient. And our defense showed improvement against pretty formidable opponent the week after andy dalton gave it to buffalo. They are putting winning football on the field more often, and we are slowly becoming better each week. I hope they can keep it up.

Yeah like I said. Your ball knowledge is bad. You think it’s best to try and clown on one of our guys? If you wanna go play with your lil cheese packer-fan you can. I don’t feel bad for him man. As a fan he has nothing to complain about in comparison. His franchise is where the NFL was born, who the trophy is named after. I can appreciate his loyalty though. Btw how many plays did Parsons make in comparison? Or did Rico run all over them too? sorry just a whole lot more nuance than just saying some dumb about our rookie DE who is playing well. So is Princely. Also new signing Gipsen. Rozeboom recently and others in being better in run D. your point about Jacob’s, is just that…Jacob’s doing. Your hyper fixation on my remarks about him being a good run DE, doesn’t change that fact. Scourton also needed more on the pass rushing downs. But I could go on and on. the real question that needs to be fixed though is why as a fan do you feel the need to bash one of our own, and talk through another person to try and do it to someone else? Are you even a panthers fan?

Oh man here we go, because I don’t have the patience to edit my post. Casual’s are “quick” to negate a player because of stats or the obvious sacks. every position is this way too. He’s a rookie, and has shown flashes. And the fact you want to nit pick and point out Jacob’s YPC and IGNORE the fact we held Green Bay to 13 points is crazy. You don’t know ball man. im beginning to hate this board. We just win a huge game, and confidence boost for our team and as a fan base we wanna complain about a rookie who has been obviously playing well. To the point of being recognized by many who have played in the NFL and receive money for knowing the game. GTFOH bro. We ain’t perfect, but we have reason for optimism and pieces to grow with and Scourton is definitely one of them

Casual fans are so quit to talk about players not producing because they don’t stand out with sacks or stats. That’s the ultimate end goal, but for a rookie getting pressure and setting the edge at his position has been huge for us. I don’t think it’s been a coincidence that when him and princely started playing more we saw more effectiveness from our defense. Give these guys time and watch them develop, he may not be the next Pep. But I like what I see

You roll with Rico, and spell his touches. I think the key is to letting them both get some rhythm. Towards the end of the game Rico was gassed would’ve been good timing for chuba you just have to stick with the hot hand.

I will say the D line is obviously the main reason. But the secondary plays the run very well too. ransom Mike jack Jaycee moehrig all of them are good run playing dbs

Had to win two in a row to win 3!

My pooing is because I pie when we have a winning record. still pumped for their WIN!

Nah just showing signs of being serviceable. It’s not impossible to say that he wouldn’t make a good backup QB. A starter no, that’s clear.

That’s the hardest part with Bryce. He just can’t be consistently good. One min he looks like he doesn’t belong in the league and the next he looks like he’s showing signs. but I feel like he was complimented today with a great run game which down the stretch made him look far better than had we not been able to establish the run.

Trying to take away 6 big carries and chopping it up to bad tackling is an insanely bad take. What Rico did today was nothing short of amazing. He put the team on his back. And I’ll even go as far to give the panthers credit for actually recognizing the run was effective. Also Kudos to the OLine and even the receivers for great blocking to accomplish it. just a straight up dookie take.