CarolinaLivin

Correct me if im wrong. I think AQ Shiply switched from player to "player coach" his last season in Tampa Bay. Couldn't continue playing. I believe he was 34 that season.

Yeah father time is undefeated. You can take care of yourself as much as possible, but the older you get the harder it gets. Coming back from injuries is harder. Explosiveness regresses. It just doesn't get easier, it gets much harder.

Per Jordan Shultz... REPORT: There is notable “disappointment” among some Giants players regarding how the organization handled the Daniel Jones situation over the past week. Many players within the team believe the decision was driven largely by financial considerations. An anonymous offensive player shared his thoughts to Jordan Schultz: “We’re not idiots. They did it because of money. So be it. But Daniel has been all class, never complained, and is now being completely disregarded. The team record is bad. You can point fingers everywhere. To try to blame him is trash, and making him third string is weak as fu**.” Dexter Lawrence also said, “He’s the QB1. To me, he’s the best quarterback on the team.”

I couldn't lol we are 32. I think if you asked this question in this past off-season, the answer would be we are 32 if bryce fails again, maybe 5-8 spots higher if he actually took a big step in the right direction.

Giants owner already said Daboll and GM are safe. https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-owner-john-mara-says-brian-dabolls-and-joe-schoens-jobs-are-safe-declines-to-address-daniel-jones-020033472.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHOt9vWsoPjVNcP7ZltXja92fQN9Qboc_xJbzZPoq0lrTE_zb_aSQBmFLCYx4gcBr8Arj5uHxOrKDjAWBF8F5g8nFa6wWkfCoiJlzECWsJoaY6iyO-rK9S1sAwVvFTWWWMB_AVYFDCBwgGni8foOyXjZ5nPTXXnVgjgOxazMwOR2 https://www.si.com/nfl/adam-schefter-brian-daboll-joe-schoen-job-security https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41969928/giants-committed-daboll-schoen-2-5-start-mara-says And McCarthy will be let go not fired. His contract ends after this season. He won't be extended but won't be fired.

You also don't have to do the ML bets. You can just take KC straight up to win. Obviously the odds of them winning is higher than the odds of them winning and winning by 11 or more. So you won't make as much doing that.

I’m not sure this would be a surprise though. I was thinking Eagles.

If we go your route, at best we are this years Patriots. And that’s IF the guy you select in the 1st is “the guy”. Not saying Drake maye is it yet, but early signs are good. Basically you have a QB with no help. We have no help and no QB. And no assured can’t miss QB prospect is in this draft. Look, we all agree that you need a franchise QB to win and win consistently. At some point we have to evaluate the player/prospect. If your evaluations say draft the guy, then proceed to do so.

Yeah sure some teams are not gonna want to have to recruit a QB like its college BUT you got add in desperation. One team WILL fall in love and go after him. A HC or GM on the hot seat will look past deion and draft him.

Pretty alright draft prospect videos on Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders.

lol please don't get the tank commanders started

I agreed on drafting a QB is a gamble regardless of a good draft class or not. I agreed on you have to keep trying to get your QB. I was just telling you the possible reason why people want the Panthers to pass on a QB in the first round this year. Its Morgan/Canales that will get to decide their fate. If they fall for one, draft him. If they don't, then don't. Don't just draft one because you need one. No one can say for sure whether ward, sanders, or any other QB in this draft will be a franchise QB. What if we take one and he doesn't work out again. How far back would that set us? I don't think we should be scared to take one and I don't think we should just say right now to focus on 2026 for QB. Go through the routine/norm of the off-season. Scout and do our research and make the best decision for the team moving forward. If they think that is a QB first round, fine.

People aren't saying no to drafting a QB in the first round without reason. Every team you mentioned , Texans/Commanders/Patriots, all got their QB of the future in a "loaded" draft for the QB position. This draft does not have that. I agree that regardless of the thoughts related to how good or great this draft (or any draft is), drafting a player is still a gamble. In a "loaded" draft for the QB position we drafted a dud. I agree that we have to keep attempting to get the guy. But to say F it and draft one in the first round every year isn't ideal. Because you have to put a team around that rookie. The Bryce trade up not only hurt us by him not being the guy, but we traded a good player and assets that could've been used to help build a roster. So we are back to having to rebuild the roster as well as finding the franchise QB. Tough task. Don't think its cut and dry just draft a QB in first round until you get him. I agree that you do have to find one. I just don't think its easy as find the guy. Cause now not only do you have to find the guy, you have to find the guy that can do it without help. Which is even more of a diamond in the rough.

Lol alright, you have fun with that. Though I am also intrigued as to how you pull that off and don’t end up fired haha so I can’t be mad. I’ll be waiting for an answer even if i don’t expect a good one.

So we should stop the development of all of our young players and say hey guys you’ve played well enough to shelf it until next year and tank this season for a draft that doesn’t even have a generational talent at the top for us to grab. players: hell yeah coach, you got it

You’re kind of hinting at it though. And im saying “kind of” to be nice lol

I think its insane that people think there are teams worse than us. I get that people are looking at records, but that doesn’t really tell us our situation. We should definitely only have one win. We lucked into our last two wins. The other team had to hand the game over to us multiple times for us to win. No doubt we are still #1… in being bad

You already know the answer to this. There isn’t one. There’s nothing you can tell coaches or players to talk them into this. Unless you can somehow promise every player on the team that this season stats don’t count, the film on this year will be deleted, and all players will get signed to player-friendly (not team-friendly basically) long term deals. Then you go up to tepper and promise 3 super bowls after the jay-z 7 years are up. players are playing for the money left on contracts and the contract coming. Coaches are more or less doing the same. And this isn’t even adding in pride and/or egos. i get you’re just trying to make the other guy look dumb. But let’s end this lol the idea is dumb and isn’t happening. Only fans believe in tanking… and that’s okay. Root away for the tank. Whatever makes you happy.

Our roster doesn't currently have a non-struggling QB. Are you saying starting Bryce is our way of tanking? Regardless, no team "tanks". I think what you may be referring to is the term "rebuild". Teams ship off top players on big contracts when they realize they have no choice but to rebuild. They grab picks and play the young talent to help develop/see what they have prior to the off-season. No team tanks. Just too much at stake for that. Players fighting for contracts, coaches fighting for jobs (current & future), and both coaches/players have to put good on tape. No matter where you pick, you can pick a bust. Is it easier to pick a stud if you're picking #1 overall, sure. But no pick in the draft is guaranteed.

The football gods are in our favor. No other reason why we won this week and last.

Lineman went up to jones and said “it was a pleasure working with ya”

Ga-oh-no

Happy for JT

Bryce, go to sleep. Big game tomorrow