CarolinaLivin

Ahh understood. I keep thinking people are talking about what they want, not what they expect, to happen.

So next years qb class is way better, and you wanna take a chance on a qb this year when the potential for bust is much higher on these qbs in this class. Especially with the coaching and culture we currently have. Just take OL in draft and keep picks next for year. Leave these 2022 qbs alone.

Thought we were doing what we want to happen. Not what we expect to happen. My bad

Roll with Darnold. Continue to build the roster. Find QB in 2023 draft. Maybe even a new head coach and OC if we’re lucky.

Sounds like loser gets winston

Idk if rhule can talk tepper into a 7 year rebuild 2 years in… im sure he can get watson on board lol

Wonder if this will play any part

That's the issue with a lot of these "loser/winner" things. They will write up a winner just because he measured well, or freakish regardless of the tape. I've seen a few lists doing that. They'll say "he measured freakishly!" but didn't show much on tape or even during the drills, but man what a freak in size... i guess

You have to think his final say isn't the same as last year. Tepper either told Rhule what kind of coaches to bring in (one's with more experience), which could still be Rhule having final say. Just not his selecting the crop to interview. I think our OC is bringing in the guys he wants, and Rhule has final say/makes the hire from that group. My second guess is Tepper is letting the fear of Rhule losing his job kind of make him want more experience around him.

He begins with the coaching hires and doesn’t start talking senior bowl until about 34:00. Starts the senior bowl/draft talk with the QB’s first then goes down the line. Gives some insight to what he’s seeing and what nfl scouts are saying.

Antonio Brown is also available to take on that mission

https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/nfl-coaching-firings-interviews-hire-updates-news-on-matt-nagy-jim-harbaugh-mike-zimmer-and-more/HE5Vg4t6NXXL/

Damn... i must be getting old

Lmao yet we still have some fans that love him, unless this is sarcasm and went completely over my head lol Fire Rhule

That's what its all about

8 pages on a topic about Sam Howell and not one person has listed his strengths and/or reasons why he'll be a great qb (or just reasons to draft him in general).

The 54th player, known as THE Fans who had to watch and pay for this season. P.S. I said 'had to" because my love for the team made me. Damn near had to hold me to gun point to watch, but I watched every game this season.

What he did made sense. I fully understand that it could have been better at QB/OL. Those moves will forever be tied to his name. Year 1 we were a rebuild team. He turned over a roster, we had a bridge QB. Made sense for 5 wins. Wanted more but couldn't complain with what we had. Year 2 this team has a lot more talent. Very Questionable QB change. and Very Questionable pickups at OL. Understanding this was a rebuild team helped it make some sense out of the moves he made. But when we started moving in "win now" mode... everything was lost. Year 2 is what mkes me want to get rid of Rhule. Like I said Coaches make mistakes. Busts happen. Projects fail. But if can't improve from those mistakes... gotta move on. He is trying to adapt to the NFL in a very "desperate manner". And the problems he is facing aren't problems he inherited... they are problems he created... that's why we must move on. Long way of agreeing with you while adding some. I may be generous in my feelings toward roster moves but im looking at all moves not just the OL/QB, not saying you weren't

Yeah I fully agree with this. I just wanted to hear from the small group of people that want him here for another year. I've heard (and seen for myself) every reason to step away and hire a new, more experienced coach. Giving the "keep Rhule" crowd a chance to speak as to why

Which I agree with. I don't think Rhule is a bad coach. I just think his "culture"/"structure" is built more for the college level. And I don't think he can adapt/keep up. Every coach has a couple roster moves they mess up on. So overall im not mad with the roster moves, obviously could've been better at OL and QB, but getting out-coached on a weekly basis with little to no improvement... I can't deal with. New coach or not, you gotta show improvement and the ability to adapt.

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/gm-report/why-moving-on-from-matt-rhule-now-would-make-zero-sense I keep seeing articles of how Rhule and Panthers can fix this, what we can do next, etc. Articles like above stating it wouldn't make since to fire him so soon and blah blah blah, read if you'd like to see their argument. Question(s): Are there people out there (in the fanbase) that want one more year? Just to at least see? I would like to see Rhule fired myself, but am I and those wanting Rhule fired overreacting?

Understood which is why i said it could pay off down the road. But keeping Douglas and draft capital as well as Dan Arnold maybe would've better suited us in the now. Maybe. I understand the reasoning for and against both the denzel and CJ transactions.

I'd be more upset with what we gave up for CJ henderson seeing as we could've just kept rasul douglas who is making some plays for the packers. But who knows could payoff down the road i guess idk im just a simple fan, fanning

He would've played like a 5th rounder here with our coaches. Success there doesn't mean there would have been success here.