CarolinaLivin

The league is moving more into "throw the rookie out there and hope", but mainly due to their situations. Some are forced to draft a QB and play him in hopes of saving their job and/or organization. Not many teams take multiple years to develop a QB. Its a results league. And like its been mentioned (in this thread or maybe another), a lot of these coaches are only getting 3 years with an organization. Some put it together in time, and some don't.

Now as stated, it wouldn't be my choice. It would be based off of Sean Payton's ideals and who he likes more. Like said previously I am keeping the jury out until at least end of training camp/preseason. Just small factors make me believe Hill has some fight as to the QB1 position like contract and getting the call to start games last year over Winston. But if I had to choose the most likely outcome, Winston would replace drew and Hill would continue to be used as he did last year. But stranger things have happened. Its the same reason I choose to be optimistic about Sam.

I think you gotta see it more in the light of who the coach likes more for the future. Who the coach has more confidence in. We, including our coaching staff, saw what Darnold was last year and the year before that. However, they traded for him based off of what they think he could be. They have some confidence in his future. Now I am not saying they have more confidence in Hill over Winston, the jury is still out. But the fact that it is still being given thought makes me think. Maybe Sean Payton already knew who his QB1 was before the competition started. Just wanted the two QB's to bring that competitiveness to practice and show improvement, show what they've learned from sitting behind Drew. I wrote all of that to say, idk lol I think its 50/50 here. Both QB's have areas to improve in. Neither is a franchise QB in my eyes, however I do think Winston is closer to one than Hill.

It's crazy how many therapists we have on this site. Lol can't wait to see ole Darnold go out there and put on a show.

I will be attending our week 1 game. It will either be the beginning of something beautiful or something awful. Will be fun to watch.

Just worked him out. and also nice catch.

I won't believe it until Sean Payton puts it out. I see Wintson as the QB1 and them continuing to use Hill as they have in the past. Maybe throw in a few more plays where they both touch the field. But maybe they are more confident in Hill than some may think. Regardless, lets hope they're still trying to figure it out week 2.

Drew Brees has also commented on the situation saying he sees both QB's touching the field, but sees Hill on the field even more than when he (Drew) was there.

According to Ben Volin of the Boston Globe, the impending quarterback battle between Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston is “not truly open” in Payton’s eyes. Payton reportedly plans to start Hill regardless, and only switch to Winston if his “experiment” with Hill fails. Link: https://thespun.com/nfl/nfc-south/new-orleans-saints/report-sean-payton-has-a-surprising-plan-at-quarterback

I think we could try to rollover as much $$$ as we can from this season to next season. This season we sent prove-it contracts to some unproven guys. Next season we'll have more than enough to send contracts to proven guys.

The Carolina Panthers cut it pretty close, but they were able to work out a new long-term contract with their star right tackle Taylor Moton just before the franchise tag deadline. If a deal had not been struck, Moton would have played under the tag and counted $13,754,000 against the cap, the highest amount on the roster. Instead, Moton signed a four-year, $72 million deal, deservedly making him one of the highest-paid tackles in the NFL. The move also saved the Panthers a good chunk of salary cap space for the 2021 season. According to updated figures at Over the Cap, Carolina now has a little over$24 million in cap space – $10 million more than before the Moton deal. While there’s not a whole lot of options left on the market, that’s more than enough to go out and address a couple of the team’s biggest roster hole before the games begin. Signing a proven left tackle and a free safety should be at the top of the list. Link: https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/18/how-much-cap-space-do-the-panthers-have-after-taylor-motons-megadeal/ With saving approx. $10 million and putting us at about $24 million in current cap for this season, who do you think the Panthers will try to bring in if anyone? I've seen articles suggesting a LB (Vander from cowboys, would be a trade situation I believe), CB (already brought in veteran FA clinton dix), and S (suggestions from articles included FA hooker & vaccaro).

People are probably gonna poo all throughout this thread, but if i took that question seriously... There's no way the Panthers bring Cam back for anything other than retirement. We are a young team and have a FO looking for a QB of the future. If Sam doesn't work I see draft as the only option.

Lets hope after this year, we can say that we did

Sam throwing to Giants Pettis https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/14/panthers-sam-darnold-throws-with-giants-dante-pettis/ Cant get the twitter video to post in here, but this is the link to watch

Or... (Could be highly unlikely but) they beat out the starters based off talent. Maybe by they end of the season they get more comfortable at the next level and have given the coaches reason to believe they can start. Unlikely that all three probably do that and it is a wishful way of thinking. Just gotta look at all possible outcomes. Even if one is more likely than another. Edit: adding to what you said. hopefully, injuries doesn't hurt this group

Won't lie... When we drafted DJ Moore I almost put a hole in my TV. I definitely preferred Calvin Ridley. But glad I was wrong and glad to have another reason why I am not an NFL analyst.

So QB goes down we give up? Got it

LOOK FOR THE OVER ON THE CAROLINA PANTHERS SEASON WIN TOTAL https://www.sportsgrid.com/video/look-for-the-over-on-the-carolina-panthers-season-win-total/?jwsource=cl

I think what we did was the right move. We needed depth and multiple players to improve the roster and fill holes. I think the splash moves will come next year. May only be one or two, but may be all we need. We have several players that have all the tools needed to make a jump this year.

Personally, I like the moves we made. We may have not made the "splash" or "big" moves some may have wanted, but we still made good moves to lead us in the right direction. The Panthers FO are taking a very patient approach and I like it. This approach allows some of our gambles to not work and still not harm our rebuild. Mainly because of how our cap will look in the next couple of years. We have added depth and drafted star potential players. Some of the depth players may not work, but next year we can replace them with the dumpster truck of money we will have. I am excited, not just for this year but for the future of carolina. Right now (the jury is still out on this), I believe the panthers are in good hands with Matt Rhule and company.

The article actually discusses both the panthers and saints as we (obviously) play two times a year. First game at home (week 2) and last game of the season on the road (week 17). So let's jump into our off-season and how they believe we matchup against the saints. The link is below. Link: https://saintswire.usatoday.com/lists/saints-2021-schedule-panthers-sam-darnold-christian-mccaffrey/ Expectations for Carolina The Panthers added quarterback Sam Darnold via trade from the New York Jets at the beginning of the offseason (more on that in a minute). The shift from Teddy Bridgewater to Darnold has conveyed their desire for more upside in Darnold over a known floor in Bridgewater, which could play well with offensive coordinator Joe Brady’s ideas as a play caller. On top of adding Darnold, Carolina will see the return of its All-Pro running back Christian McCaffrey from season-ending injuries. The expectation is that the offense should be explosive this season, but it’s all hypothetical until all the pieces actually come together. Carolina has the ability, in theory, to compete in a division that features three teams with a ton of question marks surrounding each of them. This first matchup against the new-look Saints will be an important test for both sides. Free Agency/Trades Carolina was quite active in free agency as they freed up cap space at the beginning of the offseason. However, the Panthers did not make a move for a “big” name and instead opted to sign a number of low-cost players that could pay out big this season. Most notable is former Saints tight end Dan Arnold, who had a good year with the Arizona Cardinals (totaling 31 receptions for 438 yards, with 4 touchdown catches). The Panthers also added linebacker Denzel Perryman, defensive end Haason Reddick, and wide receiver David Moore. The free agent additions helped shore up defensive shortcomings while also providing additional depth on the offense. Yet, the biggest acquisition came via trade and is one we already talked about: Sam Darnold. The Southern California product was highly touted when he entered the league, but was unable to find much success with the floundering Jets. He is a perfect “change of scenery” candidate, especially under Brady’s tutelage. If he can play to his full potential and become what he was expected to be when he was drafted with the third overall pick in 2018, then the rest of the NFC South may have some catching up to do. 2021 NFL draft First round, 8th overall: CB Jaycee Horn, South Carolina Second round, 59th overall: WR Terrace Marshall Jr., LSU Third round, 70th overall: OT Brady Christensen, BYU The general consensus is that Carolina had a fantastic draft. They secured the best cornerback in the draft with Horn, added another weapon for Darnold in Marshall, and added much-needed offensive line depth in Christensen. After investing heavily in their defense through last year’s draft, the Panthers’ patient approach could pay off. Out of their entire draft class, they may have found three immediate starters. Carolina clearly drafted for need, but were shrewd in their ability to ascertain when to trade back and capitalized on the positions that were deep in the draft. Key Losses There were quite a few fringe and depth-type players that ended up seeing the end of their time with Carolina this offseason. The Panthers most notable losses were on the offensive side of the ball with receivers Curtis Samuel and Pharoh Cooper, plus backup running back Mike Davis, and a number of offensive linemen that made up the majority of their depth. However, Carolina addressed the holes through their key additions through either the draft, free agency or trade Matchup History (Panthers Vs. Saints) These two NFC South teams go way back. New Orleans and Carolina have met 53 times, including a playoff game (that the Saints won). The series is currently split 28-25 in the Saints’ favor. However, New Orleans was able to take both games last season to pull ahead in the overall series record. The Panthers are a notoriously pesky team to play for the Saints, as they almost always play up to their divisional rivals. This season should be no different. With Jameis Winston (likely) leading the charge for New Orleans and Darnold for the Panthers, both of these “new look” teams have a lot to answer for and even more to prove. With the first divisional matchup so early in the season, many of those questions will be answered while the season is still in its infancy. Buckle up.