Smittymoose

Carolina is better because Houston’s ownership and it’s front office broke his trust. It’s really that simple. And Carolina will be the favorite to win the NFCS if this trade goes down. Not a terrible comparison but the difference is Lovie hasn’t has any measure of success in the NFL in a decade.

It’s 2022, not 2005. No one was hiring Lovie Smith as their HC, but the Texans panicked. Ultimately they know they are 2-3 years from competing even if Mills pans out. He’ll fall on the sword for their rebuild before they make a real HC hire.

He’s a HC due to the Texans’ incompetence. Their floundering around on finding a coach + the timing of the Flores suit forced them into hiring a black coach. He will be the guy for two years or less.

Lovie Smith is awful. Is that supposed to be a positive? lol Houston was on thin ice with him, but he chose to sign a high AAV/low year extension to see how they’d handle the roster and staff. They responded by freezing him out of the coach hiring process because Easterby and Caserio are morons.

Because of who they’d have to cut or trade elsewhere to make it work, and because they have Winston on the hook for probably 1/4 of the cap they’d pay Watson if they want to resign him. They can ill-afford to give up 2-3 good players on rookie deals. They have to ask if what they would have left with Watson is better than their current roster plus Winston. Cannot ignore, too, that they are on the hook for a huge cap number with Taysom Hill. How much can they really afford to invest at the QB position?

I doubt the Saints are for real. Likely in it to drive up Carolina’s price. Assuming they could move around enough money, what do they have that is even attractive to Houston in a deal?

And they were competitive even in 2020. Lost something like 7 or 8 one score games because their defense was so pathetic.

Right. There is a lot on the administrative end to be done before Watson can speak with other teams. And while I’m sure they’ve discussed the framework of a deal, no way they were close to closing anything while his legal status was up in the air. Didn’t exactly benefit either team to put all of their cards on the table until the criminal stuff cleared.

That’s not true. Several teams were interested. 49ers were ready to pull the trigger before they traded up. Only one team could actually trade for him, Carolina had the misfortune of being that team.

1. Panthers trade Darnold 2. Another team trades for Darnold That's how it happens.

Seattle's roster sans Wilson and Wagner is worse than Carolina's roster by a pretty wide margin. They really do not have many pieces with independent value, and even less that fit the Texans' timeline to compete.

I know you've convinced yourself you're a genius and know it all, but just wait and see. If the Watson move happens, Darnold will be gone.

It's pretty simple: They ate money on Teddy's deal to improve the draft pick compensation. Darnold's value has undoubtedly cratered, but someone will be interested. Even if Carolina has to give up a pick swap. The state of the QB position is piss poor right now.

There is pretty close to 0 chance that Darnold is on the roster come week one if Carolina trades for Watson. Darnold will either be in that trade going to Houston, or Carolina will dump him elsewhere. You can book it.

Not really. Around $29,000,000 free now. Darnold will be moved, whether its to the Texans or elsewhere. They almost certainly have something in place to dump Anderson if they need the space. That's $60M cleared. This doesn't include the fact that some combo of Burns/Chinn/Brown/Horn will also be moved, which will likely have a cap neutral effect or clear a slight amount of cap, depending on who is traded. The combined incoming total of Watson and Tunsil is a little less than $53M. It's easily doable.

Yep. He's "not available" because the Panthers want to make it look like he's harder to get. There is no way Burns is the deal-breaker in all of this.

If Moore has 2nd rounder value or better to the Texans, then you move him in a deal like this to save draft capital. No doubt about it. I think he's a good WR, but do you really want to pay him $16-20M in AAV after this season?

Wow exactly what I said should/could happen yesterday. Boomers will be triggered.

Social justice warriors: “Black men in this country are over-prosecuted!” Also social justice warriors: “I can’t believe this prosecutor didn’t more vigorously pursue this case against a famous black man when she clearly didn’t think the evidence could yield a conviction!”

You’re the one crying about how the prosecutor was a coward and not fair because she didn’t do what you wanted her to do. Boo hoo.

What's chicken poo about it? They (correctly) knew the lying fake news and twitter lynch mob would never, ever shut the fug up if they didn't take this to a grand jury and get some cover. It makes total sense unless you're an activist that was determined to see a particular result rather than letting the legal process play out.

I'm not butthurt, but your outrage about the prosecutor is misguided and foolish. Believe a little bit less of the lying fake news. Your life will be much better for it. You didn't unemotionally rebut my point about the prosecutor either, by the way. Do you think prosecutors should waste the public's time and resources on loser cases?

I wasn't there, so I can't say for sure, but the threshold for probable cause is low, so I would assume that the prosecution did not press vigorously. And I think it's more than appropriate for the prosecutor to not waste the public's time and resources on loser cases. Why should the prosecutor litigate loser cases where they deem the evidence cannot result in a conviction? Because non-lawyer media and the twitter mob says it will hurt someone's feelings if they don't?

I just told you the prosecutor intentionally punted and laid out the reasons why. Normally a prosecutor would just decline yo prosecute such a sorry case, but she didn’t want to face the ire of the media lynch mob, so she took it to the grand jury instead and didn’t put up enough to get a true bill issued because she didn’t want to get stuck prosecuting a shitty case. Sorry you don’t understand.

Oh trust me, I understand it much better than you. I can be quite certain of that. What do you think I don't understand about it, exactly? Could you pinpoint the issue for me?