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1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

We have to hope Darnold is who the staff and organization is advertising him to be, because if we had the chance to pick a dynamic, franchise QB and didn't, and Darnold ends up being a Bridgewater 2.0, there will be hell to pay.

Again, I love Jaycee as a player and had him as third on my meaningless personal big board.  So, I liked him, and wanted him, and he fit a need.  But, I also had Fields as my first option, and he was available at our pick, Sewell was gone, so Horn became the second option.

Now, if Darnold comes out here and plays like a beast, while Fitt has now put together his version of LOB East, no one will even blink.  

That is obviously the scenario I'm hoping for, but I really worry we passed up on a real franchise QB with a stopgap in place.  I really think them pushing all their chips in on Darnold will decide the fate of this staff.  If they got it right, they are secure and look like geniuses.  But, if they got it wrong, we passed up on a gamechanging QB with a top 10 pick this year, and will likely finish with a better record than 2020, even if Darnold is bad, which means we are picking further back in the draft...  and as the last few years have shown, it is becoming increasingly hard to land a franchise QB in the middle to later picks.  So, to be brief, if we weren't sure about Darnold, picking in the top 10 was our best bet to shore up the QB spot long-term.

Again, I love Horn, but considering this staff dumped a beloved franchise QB, that even if he didn't have a right arm, still would've been more productive than the guy they paid 24M to replace him with and publicly gushed over before realizing how wrong they were and trading him away after 1 year...  I'm just really concerned.

Taking Horn in and of itself is an A+ move in my book, and I love the idea that we just drafted a guy that will shutdown opposing 1s and take away a whole side of the field on his own...  but, as I said numerous times last season, you can get every other position on the field right, but if you get QB wrong, none of it will matter.  And after the chickenshit they tried to shovel down our throats as chicken salad last year at QB, I'm worried about the position, regardless of what else we've done.  The fact we waited to exercise Darnold's 5th year option until after passing on Fields in the first-round even seems indecisive on the organization's part in terms of their belief in Darnold. 

I very much appreciate the nuance of this post, and I would have to say for the most part I share your thinking.

43 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

Panther fans have no reason to hate Sam Darnold. We ALL want him to do well. We just have no reason to believe that all of a sudden he's going to transform into anything that he hasn't always been. 

There is reason to believe that with more weapons and a better system, he COULD become the player he was drafted to be. Our FO is taking that bet.

Man will I be glad when we've picked whoever we're getting in the first round so we can all stop running in circles with all the possibilities.

Anyone want to venture over to Broncos twitter/forums to see how they're taking the news?

10 hours ago, BigTeddyFan said:

Teddy definitely needs an extension. I think adding another 6 years to his current deal would be about right, and standard for a franchise QB.

6??? Make it 10!

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but we're all gonna die.

 

Is this a veiled threat lmao

http://<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In regards to <a href="https://twitter.com/peter_king?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">@peter_king</a>&#39;s report from last night about Atlanta listening on Julio Jones, and why it would be a post June 1 move:<br><br>*If the Falcons trade him after June 1, they save $15 million against the cap.<br><br>*If the Falcons trade him before June 1, it would be a $23M cap hit.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1386737645351444485?ref_src=twsrc^tfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

If they really are looking at moving on from Julio Jones, I wonder what that says about the status of Matt Ryan.

Could be that they're all in on Pitts this year and hoping to get something for Julio while they can.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1386690742941331459

43 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

I think retiring numbers should only be done rarely, like Jerry Rice or Tom Brady.  Truly GOATs at their position and not only franchise legends, but legends to the sport.  It’s a respect thing.  
 

I like the number change.  I don’t “love” it, but I think it’s cool.  Gonna be seeing a lot more WR with those single digits.  Admittedly I love WR numbers in the 80s and it seems like they’ve been going more into the teens lately, but at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter.  

Personally, I like how European soccer clubs treat their numbers. Some numbers have a lot more weight than others (like 1, 59, or 89 etc. would for the Panthers) and the expectation is that if you're given a number with higher significance, then your level of play needs to match that. It's like a higher responsibility out of respect for those who have worn that number previously.

11 minutes ago, blueandblackattack said:

Me personally, my initial reaction is I definitely don't like it, and that it makes it easier to see who's who on the field based on their numbers. But I get that eventually, with teams retiring numbers, that eventually they'll run out at certain positions, so maybe it's inevitable. Still don't like it, but that's how I feel.

What about you?

This is why I'm not a fan of retiring numbers. Eventually you'll run out.

The organization has crapped all over teddy all offseason. I'm not sure why everyone expects him to be happy with his current situation. IMO by not saying anything he is being as professional as he needs to be. 

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Lol. Welcome to the Panthets fanbase. Go check out some info on our 2010 and 2001 team season. Sometimes you have to embrace the suck. Those two disasters got us into 2 SBs and 1 franchise QB. We are in this for the first pick in 2022 baby!

I was 5 years old in 2001 but I remember the 2010 season quite well. I don't think we will be quite that bad this year. If we are the worst team in the league I will be genuinely surprised. 

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

It has killed any excitement for 2021 whatsoever. If I could skip to 2022 I would not hesitate.

Sounds like you need to skip to another fanbase lmao you are so negative.

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

What if one of your top QBs is actually there? You still gotta take him and now you gotta deal with Darnold.

Of course you take one of the QBs if they're there at #8, and you can let him sit a year under Darnold and not be thrown to the wolves immediately. And if Darnold doesn't work out, then we already have his replacement on the roster. 

26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The big issue I have here is the timing. If we made this deal after striking out at #8 I'd be alright with it. It just feels like we're making a desperation move before we should be in desperation mode.

I'd argue that the timing on this deal makes more sense than waiting. It allows us to focus on needs at other positions with the #8 pick without having to worry about one of the QBs falling to us. 

Some of y'all who were singing the praises of SF for mortgaging their future to get an unproven rookie at #3, are now crying because we make a low risk high reward trade for a QB who has never played on a good team. Makes sense if you always assume every move any other team makes will work out and any move the Panthers make will backfire.

I'm not usually in favor of the concept of retiring jerseys, but certain numbers hold more weight than others. I think it would be a sign of good faith to Cam if we did not give out the number 1 so soon after he left.

I'm not sure I see us taking multiple WRs/RBs and while only taking one OL player in each draft.

1 minute ago, BleedinGreenNC said:

SMH, glad you guys took Rhule. I like the direction that my team is headed, you guys wont even contend in your division.....

Why are you here?

3 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

The real question now is what is ATL going to do? Do they pick the last of the 4 QBs or go a different position? If ATL doesn't pick a QB then one of the four really can fall to us at 8 with Philly moving out of spot 6. Mia, Det, and Cincy don't need QB. Unless someone leaps frog us again, we may still get a chance at a QB. 

If one of the top 4 QBs makes it past Atlanta at #4, I fear the Broncos would try to leapfrog us and grab them.

QB's are going to go 1,2,3,4, and Mac Jones is not going to make it to the second round. We're either going to have to go with BPA at 8 and get Mond/Trask in the 2nd, or overpay for Mac Jones.

Given Fitt's history at Seattle, I would expect us to trade down if the top 4 QBs are gone by 8.