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I was using what Google told me, which is that Stroud weighed a couple of pounds more. Then I was corrected and told that according to combine measurements, Stroud weighed a couple of pounds less. The spirit of the argument that I was trying to make was that there is not a significant difference in their weight, but yes, I did say that Stroud weighed more before the clarification was made. The spirit of the argument that I was pushing back on was saying that Stroud was "smaller" than Tua because he weighed 3 pounds less at their respective combine weigh ins. 3 pounds is not enough in my mind to claim someone is "smaller", especially when the person who weighs 3 pounds less is 2 inches taller.

Josh McCown is not the only voice in the room, nor is he the most important voice in the room. Your opinion. Saying "The reality is..." before stating your opinion, doesn't change it from still being just your opinion. He didn't say that. He said if you move up you better have conviction. It is possible to have enough conviction on multiple candidates to decide to move up, then determine who your guy is after you've made the trade. I'm seeing a whole lot of speculation based off of nothing but your own opinion here.

I'm perfectly fine with Young. I don't think the injury concern is a big enough reason to not take him, if the staff feels that he's the guy. But I'm also not going to act like the concerns regarding his size are "imagined". You can want Young and still be realistic.

The problem is that the exact same logic that you're using to claim we moved up for CJ, is also being used to claim we moved up for AR.

We're talking about a difference of a couple of pounds. Essentially the difference is nonexistent in terms of weight, but keep telling yourself what you need to to get by. Like others have said, if you're concerned about CJ's injury likelihood because of his size then Young shouldn't be on your draft board at all. This is why it's so easy to discern where your argument is really coming from.

No one here is being uncivil. Your argument hinges on your assertion that CJ is smaller than Tua, and that's just not the case. You're just coping because most folks are worried about Young's small frame and you're trying to conjure any reason you can as to why we should also be worried about CJ.

If you're trying to claim that we need to be worried about CJ getting injured because he's a similar size to Tua, then Young shouldn't even be in the question. Young is considerably smaller, and has a smaller frame than both Stroud and Tua. I get it you like Young but come on man if you can't be throwing the "what if he gets injured" stone from within the Bryce Young glass house.

You're squabbling over three pounds now? Ridiculous.

Stroud is both taller and weighs more than Tua. I'm not sure why you're running with this narrative.

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The draft is not the only way to replace WR production. And unless I'm mistaken, one of the factors that led to us trading CMC was to amass draft capital in order to move up for a QB. At the end of the day I just don't think this trade leaves us in as dire a position as you're making it seem.

This feels a bit dramatic. The only assets we gave up that could hinder us were the 2024 1st and DJ. I love DJ but he's not impossible to replace. And that first rounder next year should be a late round pick.

Didn't he make a similar gaff when speaking about the Panthers? I can't remember if it was regarding Young or Stroud. It's either a slip of the tongue, or a showing of the cards.

Like I'm supposed to believe Tony Pauline has the inside track.

So I've made it through him talking about Young and Stroud. He's very high on Young. He spent the entire time praising his traits and his movement, and downplaying worries about his size, saying that the modern game mitigates those concerns. He repeated his talking point on Stroud by saying that if he could repeat his performance against Georgia every game then he could be a world class QB, but he hasn't seen the consistency. He is not a fan of Stroud's movement, although he does say Stroud a clinical technician from the pocket. He also uses the fact that Ohio State's WRs are so good that he's worried that Stroud is going to be in a situation where his receivers in the league are not as good as his WRs at OSU.

Not sure yet, I haven't listened. I'll let you know in an hour and half lol.

JT was a guest on Mina Kimes' podcast today discussing his QB rankings if y'all are interested in hearing more of what he has to say on the subject.

Still seems strange to me that they put the jerseys on sale just because the blue is changing to a slightly different blue. Oh well I guess.

What the hell are you talking about dude

Doesn’t change the fact that the pants are not silver anymore, they’re gray.

I wonder if "stopping short of going under the armpit" means that the shoulder stripes will look like the new Patriots unis.