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So they fired him for not running something that he's never historically run. This is on Tepper and the FO for not knowing who they hired and the system he runs, and saddling him with a QB that doesn't fit that system. This organization is something else, I tell ya.

1 minute ago, TheBigKat said:

1 hr podcast.... that's a no go for me

That's a very standard length for a podcast.

4 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Being that we can’t hit on any rounds after 1 I’m not sure it matters.  

That was with Hurney. We can't hit on any of them anymore.

If this isn't a microcosm of the comedy of errors that is this franchise.

11 minutes ago, RJK said:

Can’t wait for Sunday when the panthers look exactly the same as they have the last 5 years 

I'm not even counting on the classic "Win the first game after the coach gets fired" to happen

We won't know exactly how much of this is Bryce's fault until he's under a new staff and has WRs who can get separation.

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

And no disrespect to Tabor, but why tf him as interim?  Why not Evero?

He 100% turned it down, I'm sure of it

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Let's just say I put a lot more stock in Young's ability to handle a power run scheme than I do our offensive lines ability to do zone blocking.

But hell, even if you stuck with what we have now, what prevents you from running someplace out of a "jumbo' package with an extra tackle or something like that?

If we've tried anything of that sort this season, I missed it.

There were some packages with two TEs and I think an extra tackle that resembled the Arbys package from last season that were run early in the game against the Cowboys on Sunday. Greg pointed it out on the broadcast.

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am trying real hard to envision a scenario where it could be worse then it is now.  Maybe if fitt traded our 2025 first for a dog poo wr but as it stands now we are in a deep pit.

It can always be worse. The pit can always be deeper.

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If the dumbest Huddler was the GM at very worst we'd have one additional loss. And we might even have a 1st round pick next year.

Oh, it could be so much worse than just being 0-10. You're giving the Huddle way too much credit here.

Evero turned down the Bronco's offer to make him interim last year. He's my pick, but I doubt he takes it if offered.

1 minute ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

There is no way they can be this bad without intention.

Of course there's a way, don't be ridiculous.

Just now, frankw said:

Don't get your hopes up folks. Tepper is going to let this drag out as long as possible because he knows he pushed them to draft the QB he wanted.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if no one is fired until the end of the season, and maybe not even then. I guess we can look forward to the "Is Frank fired yet?" threads every week tho.

Something tells me our pass blocking scheme is not suited to the personnel at hand. Just an idea I just came up with myself.

7 minutes ago, NAS said:

I was there, watching every game when we went 1-15 or 2-14.  I always knew things would get better.  This time feels different, I have no hope with David Tepper as our owner.

That's fair, but I just can't help but think that Lions and Browns fans would laugh at us complaining about a mere 6 years of losing. If they can turn it around, then certainly the Panthers can too.

There's a lot of hubris on this board regarding how well they'd do at the GM job. It's not an easy one, and I would not trust one single poster on this board to do a good job in that role.

*Obligatory disclaimer that this statement doesn't mean I don't want Fitts fired, because I know how y'all love to misconstrue arguments*

Not to buck the melodrama in this thread, but I will always follow this team, no matter how dark it gets. I'll never not be interested in how they're doing.

The bad times make the good times sweeter, and things won't be bad forever.

15 minutes ago, demcj said:

this makes sense on the surface, but keep in mind he had to work with what was given him.

it wasn't his staff or players, and there was no offseason to prep. he couldn't hire anyone, and his hands were tied with bringing in new talent.

he just stepped in and made it work. 

it's a given that mistakes would be made, but everything was trending upwards.

 

That's fair, and he did do a good job of restoring respectability and stabilizing the ship. He should be commended for that, I just believe with all context considered, it is not a stretch to believe that he would not be the best HC candidate available. Unfortunately, we have Tepper making those decisions, so now in hindsight he looks miles better than what we have now.

19 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

I think Scott knew he was on a short leash given his shortcomings and Burns was one of the only proven commodities on the team that may have been a piece towards building a winner culture and keeping Scott around a little longer. Unfortunately, we aren’t winning with or without him, and Scott would not be here to make those draft picks from the Rams anyways. I don’t think he was traded for Scott’s own selfish reasons. 

Absolutely. People either forget or purposefully discount how GMs devalue future picks. A 2024 and 2025 first round pick doesn't mean a whole lot to a GM in 2022 whose seat is warming up.

1 minute ago, Gapanthersfan said:

First black panthers coach who rallied a loser and directionless team in to a group of men with restored pride. They were ready to run through a wall for that man. Wilks was much more than just a coach to them. 
 

and he never even got a chance. Rejected. Image how that looked and felt to the players. 
 

all they had to do was give the man a fair chance and most of the current poo wouldn’t exist. That’s where the locker room is. And I don’t know how to make that right. 
 

was he the coach for the job? I don’t know. Maybe? Maybe not. 
 

if he never won a game and they continued to flounder, then ok. But he came in and turned them in to winners, when he wasn’t supposed to.

He went 6-6 as interim, and got rocked by good teams, so I disagree with your evaluation that he turned the team into "winners". He had good wins against the Lions and the Bucs (first game), and had absolute howlers against the Steelers and Bucs (second game), the latter of which was with the division and playoffs on the line. It's not hard to understand the reasoning of not hiring him as HC. Like I have said and will continue to say, just because Reich was the wrong hire, doesn't mean Wilks was the right one.

The Panthers aren't moving. Y'all are attributing malice to Tepper's actions when you should be blaming incompetence.

Also, I thought it was pretty well known that it was Rhule that wanted Keep Pounding done away with, so he could implement his "brand".

3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Firing Wilks is one of the most devastating decisions in franchise history. 

Let's not be dramatic now

8 minutes ago, Castavar said:

I was ok with going in a different direction....................BUT NOT FOR FUGGIN FRANK REICH! If you were just going to hire a retread coach who literally just got fired midseason, you should have just rolled with the guy who got us back to competency.

It's the same as the Cam situation. I was fine moving on from him as the time had come.............BUT NOT FOR FUGGIN TEDDY BRIDGEWATER!!!!!! I'm starting to actually hate this franchise.

Ever since Tepper took over, even the "right" decisions, like moving on from Ron, Marty, Rhule etc., have been bungled by circumstances and timing, and their hand picked replacements have gotten worse with each round. It's just an unending spiral we're in.

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Just because Frank was the wrong decision, doesn't mean Wilks was the right one.