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5 minutes ago, Varking said:

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/05/d-j-moores-contract-factored-into-bears-trade-effort
 

Poles also talked about it himself. It didn’t need to be DJ. 

This article mentions that it was easier to get DJ than Burns or Brown, because DJ was the only one not on a rookie deal, which I suppose does point back to it being our FO that ultimately made that call. Though it does sound like Poles thought DJ was the most realistic target, and it just happened to fill a need in a weak market.

6 minutes ago, Varking said:

This doesn’t change my belief of it. Dalton hasn’t helped any QB live up to their hype since he left Cinci. 

Fair enough. Agree to disagree.

6 minutes ago, Varking said:

I don’t think he needs Dalton to be mentored. He has former QBs on the coaching staff. At least two of them. 

2 minutes ago, Varking said:

From what I understood the Bears were open to Brown, Burns or DJ. DJ was the prize but they would have taken Brown or Burns if the other assets going to them were right. 

Do you have any reports that say this? 

1 minute ago, Varking said:

It doesn’t matter. If Bryce gets hurt the season is over. This whole season is about him. Our backup QB should be traded if we can get something for him.

You're disregarding the most important aspect of Dalton's value to the team, which is his mentorship of Bryce.

11 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

IMHO we have McCown to feel the veteran role.  We are in a good situation to recoup some much-needed draft capital with Dalton.  I think it would be foolish not to pursue.

If Bryce goes down, is it really going to matter for this season who the QB is?  I'd rather have the draft capital b/c Bryce is the long-term guy and we're not making a run this year.

I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree. IMO, a 5th isn't commensurate with the value Dalton brings to the team, especially with this FO doing the drafting. 

8 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

If people are freaking out now, I cannot imagine this place when Young signs his second deal. We haven't had to pay QB's for a while. 

By that point, the going rate for QBs could be 75 mil a year.

21 minutes ago, joemac said:

He's already got that with Reich and McCown. 

The dynamics of coach-player mentorship and player-player mentorship are completely different. It's good to have both.

4 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

There is no way to help him really. We traded all that away, convinced we were a qb away. What could we get from Vikings for Dalton?

Not enough to warrant trading away our rookie QB's mentor.

4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

The Bears were willing to take Brown, Burns or DJ.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/panthers-were-in-tears-on-phone-with-dj-moore-about-trade/348641/

"By no means did the Panthers want to trade DJ, but the Bears were smart," Rosenhaus said. "They knew the Panthers really wanted to draft a quarterback. They were insistent on getting DJ as part of that package. And they landed a No. 1 wide receiver for Justin Fields. Great trade for the Bears."

21 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Whoever made the final decision to ship of DJ instead of Brown or Burns should be fired. They absolutely need to go out before the deadline and get Young some help

That would be the Bear's FO. The deal wasn't happening without DJ.

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Problem with the upcoming 2 winnable  games is the matchup they present.  NFL is just matchups.   Which makes them harder matchups for us vs others. 

Bears and Colts both have top 10 rush attacks.   They complicates them for us and makes them less easy games for us than they initially appear.  Because our run defense is garbage. 

The good news is that the Bears' pass rush is ass, so that should alleviate some stress on the OL

47 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

We are currently not in last place. 1-7 Cards haven’t had their bye week yet. 

9 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's not a great look but the other poster isn't exactly known for a polite demeanor either.

Oh I know, lol, but he's also not a mod, and the specific post that LG responded to was pretty innocuous.

12 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Or Lamar jackson for just 2 firsts.  

12 hours ago, Jaxel said:

Total missed opportunity.

Positive vibes only fellas.

This wouldn't really move the needle as much as we'd need it to, and I'm opposed to sending out more draft picks for band-aid fixes.

18 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

No one is saying there is a correlation. They are saying people would rather be signed to play in those places than in Charlotte. I get that you guys love your state and city ... hell I lived in CLT for 18 years. But replace Charlotte with: Oklahoma City, Memphis, Jacksonville, Baltimore, Indianapolis, etc. Now ... defend in the same way.

You got a source for this take, or are you just letting your personal biases drive your feelings on the matter?

Also, two of those cities don't have NFL teams, but I take your point, and to that point, I say that I could find enjoyment in any of those cities, especially with NFL money. 

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

The more I think about it the more I think fitt (and reich) are safe for one more season.  Give them next year to show something and if not start completely over.  I think firing whoever would be detrimental to youngs development.  Give everyone this year and next to see where we are headed.  I hate it but its probably for the best for the franchise overall.  And this is coming from someone who thinks fitt is dumb as fug

This is my exact thought process as well. No use firing Fitts if that means the new GM is stuck with a head coach and QB they may or may not want, or even worse, they limit GM candidates to those who are ok with Reich.

14 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

..., and Spider-Man is stupid.

Gotta disagree with you there.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

young rich single athletes are still going to prefer the ones in Miami, Atlanta, NY, LA, etc.....because it's about more than that for them.  Whose going to be in those Charlotte clubs? Answer is nobody.  Whose going to me in the Miami ones? Other high profile people. 

but none of that is why our team sucks.  Guys play for checks ultimately.  And the majority of the league isn't a high profile super star single 22 year old.   And those guys get drafted. 

If quality of night life had any correlation to team success, then the Jets and Dolphins wouldn't have been perennial losers for the past 3 decades, and Vegas wouldn't be sucking ass right now.

No roster moves this season. Wait for the offseason and attack the FA market.

16 minutes ago, scpanther22 said:

if the south embraced walkable cities it would be better here by a mile 

 

This x1000

Yesterday's game was must-win and they came up limp. If they can't win against a Messi-less Miami team after being up 2-1 with 10 minutes left, then what's even the point of making the playoffs. This team cannot not concede. Just a mentally weak side, and that is in large part due to Lattanzio.

43 minutes ago, Teddy2SuperBowlHeartBreaks said:

So it doesn’t bother anyone that the “media” can report something as ridiculous as this, it sours the public perception of the player, and in 2 weeks when the redaction comes out nobody will care because the narrative is already sown in the public consciousness? 

It's a random twitter account that paid for a blue check, not exactly credentialed media.