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Folks were upset we didn't get a 1st rounder lmao

The English are paying for their past crimes by having to watch these teams play.

He just figured out where the sun is a couple of weeks ago

If Legette catches the ball we beat the Eagles. If the defense stops Mahomes from marching down the field in less than a minute, we beat the Chiefs. If Chuba doesn't fumble in OT, we beat the Bucs in round 1. Three playoff teams against whom Bryce did enough to get us the win.

Wins are far from pointless when you're trying to build a culture. Draft picks are always a risk, so I'd rather the team learn how to close out games and win than lose out and get a slightly better pick. This roster has so many holes that we are guaranteed to find a player at a position of need wherever we end up picking.

Bears are tied with us at a 4-11 record. I'd be lying if I said I don't secretly hope that they end up with a worse record than us. Also they were 7-10 last year with Fields. They're going to have a worse record this year with Caleb. Ya hate to see it, really.

There are games on UNC's schedule that you've earmarked as Ws that they will lose. Not sure which ones, but it will happen. Programs can't be turned around that quickly, especially with an old coach who's going to have to make the transition from NFL to college. He might end up being a good coach at the college level, but expecting a 180 turnaround and ACC championship is wildly unrealistic, even for you.

I've seen enough, stop the count

Which is probably why they get so many Panthers games lmao

Chris Myers and Mark Schlereth suck ass

We're in a great position to see just how big of a misstep it would be, having made so many ourselves

The Panthers could never win a game ever again and I'd still take the time to laugh at the Falcons mistakes.

The Falcons FO is getting cleared out if Penix doesn't hit. What a monumental failure it would be to give an old QB coming off an achilles injury a 4 year deal and then spend a top 10 pick on a failed QB prospect, especially when they desperately need defensive talent.

whoosh

Who?

Just because we've only just now been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, doesn't mean that we weren't de facto eliminated weeks ago. I don't think anything changes.

If they're still finalizing the deal then of course nothing is official. Come on man. Think.

They've just run through a series of somewhat tough to very tough defenses, and now their schedule eases up dramatically. They've got Vegas, NYG, Commanders, and us to finish the season. They're probably assuming Kirk can do enough to win against weaker defenses, and they don't want to drop a winnable game because of a rookie's first start.

Pride, ego, and sunk cost.

Where I stand is that I had completely written him off and was done with him, but he's turned it around enough to make me alright with naming him the starter next year. He's not currently good enough to call him a franchise QB, but the hope is that he keeps growing. Maybe this is my own bias, but I feel like most fans fall somewhere around this area. Most of the hot takes on here are being made by a few on here who are attempting to clown the majority who were done with Bryce after his consistently poor performances. Also no one should be making definitive statements about XL. Chuba Hubbard and Derek Brown are just recent examples of players declared busts in year one that have become franchise corner pieces. With that said, I'm in favor of going WR round one if a top tier prospect falls to us.

Hurts was absolute ass yesterday. Definitely outplayed by Bryce.

This bet would've made a lot more sense early in the season. Panthers have all of a sudden become a tough out, which is enough to make betting against them a nervy affair.

I thought your answer held unreasonable expectations, so I questioned it. I guess all those QBs stunk against the Eagles since they didn't meet your threshold. I can say that my threshold for a successful franchise QB is 5,000 yards passing and get on my high horse and scoff at anyone saying it's unrealistic because they just have too low standards but that's not very productive is it?

Agreed.