Panthers Rhule

I also wanted to give a shout out for the Last Dragon image. Sho Nuff!!

Yes I agree with both of you, Any team may just yeah you can move up for next years first. It's possible. Especially a team like Miami that has draft picks like candy. But at some point they have more than they need and might prefer using them to trade up for certain players instead of down and accumulating more candy. Also, I agree on the bullish market maybe not being as bullish as it seems. I just find it hard to believe that teams like ATL or DET are really going to draft a QB now. I also don't see SF wanting a rookie now either nor Denver. They have too much invested with what they have. I'm 50/50 on even the Jets tbh. If I'm the Jets I'm thinking about looking at picks 4-7 for a team that wants Sewell badly, getting an extra pick or 2 and then maybe trading down again if possible to a team like Carolina for their QB or a team a little higher that wants a CB or LB or TE superstar. I could probably still get the 2nd OT, WR or CB plus I have some nice new picks as well. The movement already seen this off season is showing that teams are thinking outside the traditional box and I expect to see this trend continue up to and into the draft. For the record, I openly admit to being a "Homer", but I honestly believe Watson will be traded and that it will be to us as I don't think the Fins or Jets are really interested and that leaves the Bears and we not only can beat them but I think they have their sites more on Wilson even if it's next year.

Yes, I don't get where people come up with the idea that the 1st 4 picks will be QBs. Unless they believe the Jets, Dolphins and Falcons are drafting QBs or that the Bengals, Eagles or Lions are moving up to draft a QB. People also throw around trading down to QB desperate teams but I don't think they understand the cost of such moves. Let's just take it from the start and say the Dolphins are the first team that wants to trade down and Carolina is the first QB desperate team. To make this deal happen we have to consider the Trade Value. Pick 3 has a TV of 2,200 points. Pick 8 has a TV of 1,400 points. Carolina needs to add 800 tv points to even be considered. (usually teams want more. The Bills had to go about 400 points over to get Allen) So the Panthers would have to give up at least this to move from 8 to 3. pick 8=1,400, pick 39=510, pick 73=225. So our first 3 picks in '21 only comes to 2,135 tv points. We are still a little short. They might accept that but we'd probably have to include a '22 2nd as well as a minimum offer. That's a lot for an unknown. One thing if it's Watson, you know what you're getting. A rookie coming out of College is another story. Every pick after ours loses 50 tv points so those moves get more and more expensive for those teams. The biggest threat to us would be the Broncos at 9 and 49ers at 12. But I doubt they would want to trade up to 3. They would likely try to go for 6 or 7 if they wanted a qb. NE is the next closest team. To trade up to 7 to draft a qb before Carolina, NE would have to have 450 tv points, that would be their first and second in '21 and probably at minimal '22 second and likely another pick as well in '22 or '23. So, the only teams that could afford to move up to 3 for a QB are us, Denver and SF. They already have youngish QBs who are average at least. That's a big move for them. The most likely move would be up to 6 or 7. They could do that and that would likely be the biggest threat to us. NE could also make that move but they would have to really want him and they need a lot of other things there but we have to watch them too. The others would have to trade away the this draft and half the next to make that move and isn't very likely to happen.

Yeah, I've thought for a while now that if we don't trade forWatson the I think Lance will be the pick. He just seem like the type of player Rhule would like to coach to me. He has the physical characteristics and the coachable trait that Rhule loves to talk about. He's really big on the coaching part

no one has traded up 4 a qb the last 2 season tho. for whatever that's worth. With the cap problems 60% of the teams have I think most can't lose 3 draft picks this season as they'll need them just to fill roster spots.

smoke screen. They are telling other teams present, Hey, we want to trade back a few spots. You can have Lance at 4

sorry but I see only Jax and NY maybe as WB teams. For anyone to move above us there are only 2 maybe 3 who could afford to do it. SF would be the one to watch but Im not convinced Jets draft qb to be honest. Wilson could be there at 8 or we could maybe trade up to 6 for Wilson if that was our guy

The Falcons have a lot of roster spots to fill. That can't afford to spend 1 pick on a qb to sit for 2 season. Plus Ryan is only 35 and a top 10 qb. drafting a qb makes no sense.

Yes, i agree with again. I don't believe in trading up more than 4 spots in the top 10. More than 4 costs too much. Especially in this draft which has so much talent. I also disagree with the idea that all 4 will be gone by pick 8. Some will say that if the teams don't want to draft a qb then they'll trade with team who does but I think they don't truly understand the costs of moving up from even the mid round to above 8. For teams like the Pats, Bears or WFT to move in front of us they would probably have to give a their 1st, 2nd, 3rd this year and a 1st next year or 1/2, 1/2 and that's a lot for an unknown who is the 3rd or 4th qb in a draft. I personally think possibly Fields and Lance are there at 8. The only sure pick is Jax. I'm not certain Jets will go QB, I don't think Atl will, they have Ryan for at least 2 seasons and need to fill out their roster. They will hope to trade back. Philly no. They just experienced what having 2 qbs on the roster can do in today's age and need to fill out roster as they are complete rebuild now, Detroit no, they have their qb for at least the nest 2-3 seasons. The Bears can't risk giving away 2-3 years of top picks to move up for a qb again. They just tried that and it didn't work. Pats might but that's usually not their way. WFT is Rivera's team now and that's not his style either. The one team we may have to watch out for is Denver but I believe their Lock experiment is over yet and at most they'd move up to 7 and maybe 6. If the Jets don't draft a qb then maybe 1 team will make a jump up for him specifically but otherwise I think the qbs go later than predicted.

Hi future internet friends and maybe even a rival or two, I'm new here and I only recently started posting comments on another Panthers' fan site. Before Covid, the only social media media I ever really used was FB and I stopped using that probably about 8 or 9 years ago but due to Covid and the resulting job loss, I found myself with too much free time and the toxic political environment combined was making me unhappy. I desperately needed some kind of outlet for expression and my oldest daughter suggested that I tried discussing one of my more relaxing passions and that was football. I had played and followed football for most of my 49 years but had never really discussed it on line before. I have to say though that so far I'm enjoying it a lot as it's giving me a mostly positive direction for me to spend my time time and thoughts beyond life's everyday issues. It's also reignited my passion for the game and given me a path to focus my normally hypothetical thought process in a structured way and forced me to keep my mind both sharp and my mindset positive. As I slowly start to become more involved in both Panther communities I hope to continue reading, speaking and in general, interacting with total strangers to talk about a game we all love. I hope this will remain a positive outlet for me and help me get through difficult and uncertain times. So far, I am very happy that I followed my daughters suggestion. With my work, I have to spend a lot of time speaking with all types of people from all types of life and I have to be able to read and understand and communicate with those people. It's something that I generally enjoy as I generally like people. I also have to understand personalities and how they interact with one another and find solutions between conflicting personalities. During my recent and short time on a couple of sports related platforms, I've witnessed the same type of personality conflicts that i would experience during my normal work. In online sports' rooms, I've noticed a basic but common dilemma which is most likely to lead to mild arguments or problems. It's the basic glass half empty or glass half full debate. This is present in all of our daily lives and we interact with people all the time that see this differently than ourselves but we usually don't even recognize it as it's not usually a big deal. This definitely occurs at work and usually at home too as our family members are not generally all on the same side of this psychology. However, on the internet, I've noticed that it becomes much more visible, more recognizable and is the base of most arguments in an opinion based environment such as sports' fan sites. In these situations, no one is right nor wrong, just naturally inclined to see things differently even when having the same intentions. I myself am a half full person. I am also actually one of the more extremely positive personality types. I could rightfully be described as a "Homer". I will take most any information about something I like and find a way to make it correct and for the good of what I like. It may also take me longer than average to give up on that idea and accept that it wasn't correct and move on to the next thing that will probably equally find a way to convince myself that it is good for what I like. My wife however is the opposite. She will usually see the negative sides of things and use them to justify the expectation of a negative result of something she likes so she is ready for when things don't go well and she isn't disappointed when they go as she expected. This way, if they do go well she is surprised and feels even happier because it surpassed her expectation whereas I felt happy but normal because well, that's what I expected. If things don't go well, she's not happy but she's not overly disappointed either because it was obvious to her that it would fail and I am somewhat disappointed but I'm already identifying how this negative result was actually a good thing because something positive came from it. Needlessly to say, we both confuse the hell out of one another and we rarely agree on what is the best choice of action. However, as mother and father of 2 children, this balance keeps us both balanced and offers a balanced approach to life for our children and as we have learned to listen to and respect our different views on the world, we have learned to make better judgements for our family as a team. I believe that while online, we have to be able to identify who we are, full or empty, and who we are talking to are, and try to keep that in mind when discussing our team. Us optimists must understand that pessimists don't want to get too excited about something as failure could cause them to feel depressed, while pessimists must understand that optimists need to feel excited about something or they may feel depressed regardless of outcome. When such moments arise between us, whether on line or in real life it's important to identify that the real disagreement is not on the actual subject but how we are viewing the subject. In those cases continuing the argument will not resolve anything but create further division. In such cases it's best to give your perspective, perhaps even sharing your concern or enthusiasm depending on your character and then move along in the conversation as we will never be able to convince another person as to how to see the glass as it is in our nature as individuals and therefore is neither wrong, nor right. It's just yin and yang.

Yes, and instead of sending the man responsible for all of this in front of the hyenas to answer the questions they are sending out the man who just arrived 2 months ago and has nothing to do with it and apparently telling him to lie as he's obviously struggling with that and probably because he is a man with integrity unlike the VP of football whatever Easterly. I'm actually feeling upset by the way they are doing Culley. From what I can tell he doesn't deserve any of this other than trying to take is one and only shot at what was probably a lifelong dream. This is making me start to strongly dislike the Texans but I think I will root for Culley after all of this.

Also, have you seen the press conference from AFTER the podcast? It's even worse. First he licks his lips and swallows hard (bad signs) then he puts his head, shakes no as he says Watson is committed to the Texans because they are committed to him and he's stuttering and having difficulty speaking and keeps looking down. Plus what he says doesn't make any sense as everyone knows Watson isn't committed to them. I felt bad for Culley. He's being put in a horrible situation before his first season even begins. I think now he's starting to understand why Watson wants out of Texas and what a mistake he made by accepting that job. The last conference is honestly hard to watch.

Forgot the 2nd link Yesterday

I would recommend watching the 2 responses together. In January his response is completely different. Not just the words but HOW he says it. January Pay attention to his head movements. His chin is up and he strongly moves his head forward when speaking. He's showing confidence it what he's saying and his words are strong too. "He is GOING TO BE a Texan" The structure "to be going to" is often used emphatically. Now watch the interview from yesterday. His chin is down and he's shaking his head no and not moving forward with his chin up as in January and instead of saying "He is GOING TO BE a Texan", he says "He's our QB, Right Now" and he says Right Now emphatically. His response is completely different in all ways and not just the words.

If you watch the video he also shook his head no when he said it. People who read body language will tell you that it's a subconscious response when we are deceiving. His head is answering the question truthfully. He's even shaking it firmly no if you watch it. I knew the answer before he even said a word.

I read the article too and I mostly agree with it. Same as last year, try to fill as many holes as you can without too much risk financially and remove the pressure of drafting for need. The only exception to that I could see is perhaps going a little higher for a FS or CB. No need to spend a lot on 1 position when you have so many needs.

This is definitely true, however dominant teams usually already have that QB/LT/CB. Which is why the poor teams are always chasing them.

I totally agree with this take. It's not necessarily which position you play but what you can do at that position. On defense, great pass rushing skills greatly improve you value whether you line up as a DT,DE or LB. Being able to get to the other team's QB quickly and often improves your chances of winning significantly. This past Super Bowl demonstrated that wonderfully where the league's best QB was essentially removed from the game by the second half. Also, in the secondary, ball hawking will make a player more valuable. Players who get sacks or interceptions are game changers. On offence, QBs who can win in the 4th quarter at a high rate than the ones who can't regardless of stats. Brady is great not for his stats, other QBs have better, but for his amazing ability to win games in the 4th quarter. WRs, TEs and RBs who can consistently get 3rd downs and/TDs have value. These players are game changers. Whatever the position, the more players you have that can change the game in your favor with 1 play will greatly improve you chances of success.