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He had 251 passing yards. 3 passing touchdowns and 2 rushing touchdowns. All in all a very impressive game. Problem is I do not envision his rushing ability translating like that over the course of the upcoming season. Yeah it will be something to account for from time to time but one it's not sustainable and two you don't want to put his durability to the ultimate test against a motivated defender willing to take a penalty and a fine. And plus with our backfield. Two 1k yard rushers. That's what they're here for. Then we have a much improved WR room. That means Bryce has to elevate those passing numbers substantially. The fact of the matter is regardless of circumstances it did take him 23 games to surpass Kyle Allen's single season passing yardage from 13 games in 2019. And that is not a high bar by any means. Whatever QB tier Bryce ends up in from here amongst his peers this upcoming season when it's all said and done it will be with his arm.

Why are you so focused on a Browns QB anyways? You've spent weeks badmouthing our rookie WR who had yet to play a down in an NFL game then when he finally did and looked good you went completely silent. Odd.

You of all people talking about someone else glazing a young QB based on a small sample size.

Jones is not a good QB and a turnover machine but he has made some franchise QB level throws. I've seen some nice throws from Bryce but to pretend like he is head and shoulders a more capable passer than Daniel Jones is not rooted in reality currently. Let's talk turkey not fantasy. Look at Jones completion percentage in his best year. 67%. Bryce is barely 60%. And let's keep this in perspective. Jones has something neither of our top 2 QB's here have. That's a playoff win. I would have to disagree. Is it even possible to underrate someone when they go from amongst the worst of the worst to fringe top 20? I think most people see this for what it is. Bryce has some things he does very well. He's finally displaying the movement in and around the pocket that he showed in college. He has a nice ball in certain scenarios but there are still throws that defenses are waiting to see him make on a consistent basis. That's where the story will change.

At this point I've yet to see his prowess in this area come to fruition. We've brought in a lot of players he was high on. Any word on when DJ Johnson is finally turning the corner?

Stroud was a simple layup on a lowered hoop. Just walk up and toss it in and go to work. Definition of simplicity. Still failed. Tepper's in a nutshell. The problem with Bryce is even if he establishes himself to be a middle of the pack QB you have to consider if the contract will be worth it looking at other teams that have made similar decisions and regretted it like the Giants with Daniel Jones for example. The worst thing we could do is ink him to a huge contract extension for showing just enough improvement for the front office to justify.

The QB comparisons have long been a beaten horse. Guys were making outrageous and baffling comparisons before we drafted him putting him in conversations with the greatest athletes of any generation. The hype was to me a huge bubble just waiting to burst. If Bryce is going to take the necessary steps to move on to the next level he is going to have to establish a consistent and accurate deep ball. There is no becoming a franchise QB in this league without that. And if it doesn't happen then defenses are just going to play him the way they have and he will eventually hit a wall again. Because everything is on tape. But with the receivers and the backfield we have in place this offense is more than adequate enough for him to bring it to fruition and at least become a top 15 QB. Hopefully he does.

Renfro at this point has to prove he can even make it onto the field and then the question is how long will he be healthy. I get people like him and he's a local story but honestly the longer this injury with him drags out the less likely I see him sticking. XL possesses legitimate talent to be at least a very solid 2 IMO but we are rapidly approaching the point where he needs to string together some consistent games of high end production. It has to happen soon. Coker however has emerged as a significantly reliable target and he has developed a clear rapport with the starting QB. He isn't going anywhere. And he will assuredly be active on gamedays. We would be absolute clowns to not keep him and find out what his ceiling is.

I like Corbett but I will be shocked if he's not banged up by October.

Well I am officially getting concerned about the OL heading into the season. Several guys nursing injuries. And Brown/Horn two of our most expensive defensive pieces already limited or not practicing. I know it's early. I'm just saying. Not exactly what you to see all around if you're a Panthers fan who has long endured things like this as a yearly ritual seemingly.

Other than one offensive drive you didn't miss much.

We need to sweep the Saints this year.

Idk if you want to use the term hot seat but without a doubt he is out of excuses regardless of what transpires this season. His defense needs to be at least middle of the pack and we need to see better situational playcalling. If not it's time to move on.

As of right now TBD. We'll get three more series from the starters next Saturday.

Says the guy who spends his days carrying water for the Tepper's absolutely free of charge.

At the end of the day you can draw conclusions to fit your narrative and pulling numbers from other teams to try and prop up the franchise with the worst win percentage in professional sports under the Tepper's is no different. The fact of the matter is this franchise has been putting out a mediocre to terrible product for a long time now. Even under Richardson we had a losing season every other year. You can't assign the same benefit of the doubt as you would other franchises (even the Jets and Browns have been at least marginally better than us as of late) unless you are engaging in some level of cope. And if you want to do that hey great for you. Call it what it is though.

People will come in here and dump poo reactions then spread blatant misinformation. Comical.

False. 2003 Panthers went 4-0 in the preseason. Nice job creating an argument against yourself.

We're one of the few teams who consistently struggle with it. Eventually you just have to chalk it up mismanagement.

Canales has his hands full. I think the biggest test isn't going to be if he is or isn't successful reshaping the offense but navigating the entire team and staff. We can't dismiss the awful performance from our special teams and defensive depth. He's the head honcho. Need to see how he handles that going forward. With Bryce it's wait and see. Andy at this point was a bad signing. He's a great guy but even if he plays better in the next one the writing is already on the wall. I would like to see the team pursue another low risk high reward young QB that isn't Jack Plummer as an insurance policy of sorts. It's a 17 game season any number of things can happen.

With the Panthers the reality is it's usually somewhere in the middle. The eternal optimists will barrel in and start saying everybody else is a squidward and the skeptics will say they're being homers. But at the end of the day. The Panthers are gonna Panther. One thing I've learned about this franchise. Don't have expectations. The second you do. They pull the rug right out from under you. The onus isn't on the fanbase to become believers. We've already been here. It's on the team to make believers out of us.

The way Bryce handled the second drive was very relieving to see and he navigated the pocket well most importantly in the redzone. But in the grand scheme of things with the rest of the game one drive is just that. They went 1 for 2. The starting offense is going to get at least 3 more in the coming week. Need to make all of them count for something.

Certainly happy to see the top 4 of Scourton Bryce Icky and TMac. Tershawn Wharton though. Definitely need to see better from our 45 million dollar free agent. This is where some of the concerns of overpaying role players enters the conversation. Hopefully he shakes it off.

If you've gotta go back 12 years to find something to make your point with that says it all my guy...... Everyone here wants the same goal. Some of us differ on opinions about things that transpire in the meantime. That's fine. I mean it'd be great to wake up one morning and know this franchise is at least a contender. It'd also be nice to get the back to back winning seasons monkey off our backs. But we gotta stop looking like the fuging Little Giants out there first.

To be abundantly clear this is the same place where many people ridiculed others last preseason saying it didn’t matter and then we got the doors blown off in the first two weeks of the regular season.