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Oof I mean I don't mind it if we're upgrading because he was not good last season but now you have to make a big swing for a starting center. I know the cap went up but we sure sound like we're competing to win now instead of building for a few years away.

Sounding like InOnEveryDeal all over again to me.

I get both viewpoints about LaMelo playing. You don't want to risk him to injury if it's a lost season. At the same time. Hey how about we acknowledge the elephant in the room? We haven't won a playoff series since the 2001-2002 season. At the end of the day if we ever want to change that it has to begin with the culture. And star players not playing if they can actually go is a tone setter for the locker room that is never going to get us over the hump let alone somehow win a championship. It's that simple.

Excellent title as usual SJ

I said believing it to be 100% true with absolutely zero input directly from the people who were there. One thing is for sure the story between Stroud and Young isn't going anywhere and will be talked about for years to come. They are forever connected. We'll get the whole scoop on it eventually. This is all ripe for an ESPN 30 for 30 many years down the line. Count on it. You don't see anything odd at all about the timing of the interview? Within the same week of Schefter name dropping her? Well alright. I concur on your final point. The issue is they have to show some kind of awareness and they lack that entirely. I'm beginning to think they are just that aloof. Which is certainly possible. We already know David Tepper regards his critics as basement dwellers. That's straight from the horses mouth. But hey if people want to concern post and agonize over a perceived lack of civility that's their prerogative.

We have nothing other than Schefter saying that and we have no idea who he talked to. It sounds like a coping mechanism to me that people want to believe that immediately without hearing word one from any of the coaches who were fired. They knew who wanted which QB. I'll listen when they speak. The sexual remarks about Nicole Tepper are ignorance and should be disregarded as such. At the same time let's be real here it is a very small percentage of posts in an overall discussion. And at the end of the day we all know how the internet is. You can't escape that. Overall the criticism is tame compared to some of the vitriol heaped on other public figures I would have to say. And furthermore at some point people who only seem to focus their posts on defending billionaires like the Tepper's just end up looking like Elon Musk fanboys. Legitimate criticism and discussion should be happening and it will be ongoing until the Tepper's stop trying to make everything about them and actually allow qualified football people to lead the franchise. This unprompted interview from Nicole was the complete opposite of what anyone in the Carolinas needed. Any remotely significant level of hope we as Panthers fans had begun to establish with the new year has again been reset back to square one.

Worst win percentage in all of sports. Some people want the team to actually compete and not be a dogshit franchise for another several years. Others want to white knight hoping maybe the Tepper's will read it and thank them. We all have our priorities I guess.

If your position is that you've stopped caring altogether then more power to you. So then you should have no issue with us discussing the fact she has no business being involved in the day to day operations of the franchise.

Didn't he score our only punt return touchdown in the last few years? Not inspiring a great deal of confidence so far but I'll wait and see what Dan does in the draft.

Do I seriously need to connect the dots for anyone that they are too involved in this and meddle when the wife of the owner who has only been married to him for barely 5 years does an unprompted interview as Panthers "owner" and proceeds to tout the concerts and events the stadium has hosted while making no mention of the win/loss record of the football team? She and Dave need to hire people let them do their jobs and stay out of day to day football operations.

Two days later only 4 pages lol The huddle simps said...

Anything less than a low first round pick I would simply retain the tag and keep it pushing.

Ivanka Trump of the NFL.

As others have said the last thing anyone wants to hear is bluster from either of the Tepper's. Hire football people and let them do the talking. Nicole speaking like this from a position of perceived power on her part only further lends credence to the notion that she and her husband are feckless overly controlling and attention seeking. They need to let Dan Morgan Dave Canales or literally anyone else do the talking. I can't make that more clear.

So a few days after Adam Schefter's remarks about her on a podcast Nicole Tepper is just out here casually doing interviews as the "owner" of the team?

And the Tepper's haven’t been meddling and directing us toward moves that have contributed to the putrid football product that's been on the field the last 5 years? What are you even trying to say here?

How is this thread so empty and only 3 pages after all the folks that piled into the "Nicole actually liked CJ Stroud" thread to do a victory lap? Now look who's missing

Oh no MHS. They're about to come for you.

Worst win percentage in all of professional sports the last few years and non Panthers events at the stadium are the proudest moment of the Tepper's era so far. I mean you see this stuff in bad sketch comedies. They just say it out in the open. Crazy.

Go Nicole!!!

How is Ian Thomas still here lol

I don't want to pay him 30 million i agree he does not command that value. If we can reach a reasonable contract then keep him. If not you do what you have to. All I'm saying is I've been a fan of this team for 2 decades. I know what is most likely going to happen if we trade him to a contender. It's just a Panthers tradition at this point.

I agree Burns has had underwhelming moments and if you go back and read the posts I've been critical of him often last season. But that's my point. People have basically made up their minds that at 25 years old in a dysfunctional organization that has the worst win percentage in all of professional sports the last few years that the lows are who he is and will always be at 25 years old. None of us can know that.

If Burns goes to Detroit or Baltimore he is highly likely to make a lot of people here eat their words.

People literally wanted Brown gone a few years ago lol