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I felt Bryce was cooked before preseason. I saw the same Bryce Young that Dave Canales did in camp. Throwing awful picks in shorts into double coverage without even scanning the field and then looking like he'd rather be anywhere else. This after showing up to camp looking every bit the same physically. Then on top of it all the distinct lack of deep ball that certain people here went to ridiculous and comical lengths to rationalize. I think we should be careful to give Canales too much credit for the benching. I think there was turmoil in the locker room. Players were simply tired of the way Bryce was being coddled and handed his position. If fans like us could see it and tire of it how do you think his teammates felt? Regardless Dave and Dan rebuilt the offense and they knew doing so meant taking even more away from a defense that was already not up to Panthers standards. Now look at the results? All this hand wringing about the defense is just insulting in my POV. They knew what they were getting into. Start scoring some damn points. That's why you're here.

You're speaking my language.

Then Bryce never should have been the starter to begin the season. Shouldn't have that C patch on his jersey. And Canales and Morgan should have made any level of effort to put another young quarterback on the roster that isn't a jag at best. Dave and Dan saw the same QB we did throughout camp who struggled against what has become probably the worst Panthers defense ever. It was all a farce at the expense of the fanbase. So again. No free pass.

Well let's take a look 36 10 24 20 That still puts the offense in the bottom half of the league. And look I have had scathing criticism for Bryce Young too but at the end of the day a big part of why we hired Canales was for what he could do to work with Bryce Young. He watched him all through camp and hid him in preseason. I'm not giving Dave a pass for the first two games. He's got the big boy pants on he runs the show.

We definitely need to avoid throwing out any high priced contracts at this point. We've never committed to a proper rebuild. Even this year we had Dan Morgan calling it a "retooling". Just maddening. After the season you kick the tires with Chuba and see what he's looking for. Same with Johnson. Between the two I am more concerned with keeping Hubbard. I feel like he would be more likely to give us a little leeway. Diontae will absolutely be looking to get maximum value out of his contract and who can blame him? There will be no discount whatsoever. I like him and his potential but if we sign him to a big contract IMO there's a good chance we end up regretting it. That's nothing personal against Diontae. I just know my Panthers. It's what we do. Everything going forward should be about getting more draft assets if possible and drafting BPA. That's the only viable path to fixing this roster.

The issue isn't do you pay Chubba the issue is we traded up for another RB with holes across the roster. Yes some other teams have a well oiled 2 back system that works great for them. But those teams generally have well rounded rosters otherwise. Pull up our depth chart and let it sink in.

Sad to say the Atlanta Falcons and Detroit Lions are significantly better ran organizations. Anyways some of the best backs in the league right now were undrafted. People are just looking at specific teams to validate what we're doing. But we can't do anything right so ultimately it's just coping.

There's blame to go around. I'm for all things being relatively equal. We made a concerted effort to shore up then offensive line in the offseason. We now have one of the most expensive O lines in the league. The defense was already struggling at times last season. Then we lost multiple players traded away a pass rusher. The cupboards are bare. All the same the defensive coordinator has some things to answer for. At the end of the day though he is not the head coach. On offense things could be better but we absolutely need to score more points. Fair or not the head coach has to figure that out regardless of all the talk of the defense. That's what he was brought in for.

Everything under the Tepper's is either cringy or a steaming pile of poo.

Dave Canales team is 28th in PPG big dawg.

One of the few positives is we are at least giving significant reps to our young players. Of course there's really no one else anyways.

Also can we not use the word program anymore? We're getting clowned by kickers now FFS.

If you fire Evero then that puts the focus squarely on Canales offense struggling to score points.

Even with a better defense you can only expect so much. It is an offensive league. That's not changing. When you hire an offensive head coach you need to be able to drop 30-40 points. Us slogging our way to 20 is pathetic.

Much has been said about the improvement to our offensive line but it has been to the detriment of the rest of the roster. And even then with one of the most expensive OL's in the league and an offensive minded head coach we can only muster 2 touchdowns and 2 field goals at home against the Falcons who seem like they've had a mostly mediocre to shitty defense for years now. Anyone giving Morgan or the front office as a whole credit for anything as of right now is a simp. We are not even gum on the bottom of a shoe to the rest of our division. We are a complete joke from top to bottom.

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/falcons-kicker-younghoe-koo-tells-panthers-keep-stankin Thanks Mr and Mrs. Tepper.

Probably going to go ahead and preemptively unfollow the Panthers on YouTube so they do not give me notifications about more flufftastic videos next week. They can shove it.

How many times are we going to give the Falcons the damn ball back late in the game in our own stadium? "Protect our dirt!"

I'm tired of hearing about Evero. Fire his ass already. Then the focus will be on our offensive head coach who is sitting on 20 measly points at home against the Falcons.

We're actually holding the opposing offense to field goals. Score a damn touchdown already. 20 points in this league that is setup to directly benefit the offense is fuging pitiful.

I'm frustrated like you but we do have to be reasonable here. But I do agree our first round selections on this roster absolutely need to start anchoring their position groups. Nothing wrong with saying that.

I understand that the average fan has a distinct tendency to be reactionary and I'm no better than anyone else in that area. But I cannot even fathom that someone with a functioning brain and freewill could come to the conclusion that they want to see more of Bryce Young starting at QB. The only solution might be a lobotomy.

Nice to see the lead cut to 5 but there's a high probability it goes right back to 12 with this defense. Canales and Evero better be having a very frank conversation before halftime ends. Enough of the softie bs.

As much as I have opposed CRA for his past POV about Canales I do have to say any credit Canales gets for benching Bryce is nullified for the fact he hid him in preseason. He was hired in part to at least try to fix him. Not only did he not but he and Dan Morgan decided it was a great approach to coddle him with absolutely no backup plan other than Dalton and a UDFA afterthought. Yeah he will be here next year because you have to let him try and get "his guy". But at this point I see little to no hope for next season. I fully accepted this would be a lost and possibly ugly season but I had hoped to see some development of the younger guys on the roster and so far not only is that not happening we are just getting outclassed everywhere you look. Canales is earning himself plenty of criticism and it should get louder. Some might say it isn't fair. But he took the job.