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We're in the gun for Bryce’s benefit. He played 90ish% of his college snaps from the shotgun. He has to do that to be able to see the field. But he cannot see the field if the pocket collapses he just panics and falls over into a defender.

Down 4 points at home late in the third quarter 3rd and 2 and that's what you give your defense for getting you the ball back. But folks expect the defense to save us lol

Deer in the headlights. This kid just folds in the big moments.

We consistently seem to be horrible at best over the years on special teams. Just baffling.

Correct.

The defense is certainly giving this offense opportunities.

He's 6'5 and had to leap and contort just to try and haul it in. It was PI too.

Man had to do a full leap just to get both hands on it. Again. Put your receivers in a position to succeed. It's a two way street.

It's gotta be so deflating for those guys.

Yeah but how can you even get on other guys when he can continually play like poo and still be treated like the Golden Boy?

The most common sense thing ever.

You'll never get through bro. These folks are the Flat Earth types of our fanbase.

XL with a score nice

Hey @NAS is it every one else's fault Bryce already has two turnovers at home?

2 turnovers for Bryce Young. Gotta sit him and go to someone else and give the team a chance at home.

Here's to hoping for at least a competitive game lol

This is simply false. I've been critical of Canales multiple times the last two years and certainly over the last few months going back to preseason this year and last year. He let the starters off too easy two preseasons in a row after they underwhelmed and we started the regular season poorly. I have no idea if he will end up being our coach for the future. It is not looking good for him and he has repeatedly had his team coming out looking completely flat multiple times so far as head coach. If he goes he goes. However. That does not mean I am expecting him or any other coach to magically make Bryce Young a franchise QB because they are not miracle workers. Bryce's physical attributes are what they are and they are severely lacking. It is what it is. Now if you're done just making things up trying to portray me as a hater or this or that I'm going to wish you good luck watching the upcoming game and thank you for your discussion.

There are many unfortunate truths about this franchise. None of them change the fact that Bryce Young has basically no physical tools. Brother you are being a simp. Nobody is blaming Bryce for literally everything. We're saying trying to build a successful NFL offense around his glaring deficiencies is not feasible and that was the catastrophic mistake we made in selecting him. It is what it is. Here is the video. Bryce Young doesn't make this throw. He wouldn't even be able to see the field let alone make use of a jag like Ian Thomas. Vikings vs. Panthers Week 6 Highlights _ NFL 2021.mp4

Eric Collins is great. Unfortunately I doubt we'll give him much to work with. But I appreciate having him.

Please stop saying this already. We were competitive with Sam Darnold early on even with his blunders. Rewind to the game against the Vikings in BOA of 2021. That 41 yard pass he made under duress to Ian fuging Thomas which helped send us to overtime is infinitely more impressive than anything Bryce Young has done in 30+ starts.

Fưck the San Francisco 49ers.

It's not just a talent issue it's not just a scheme issue it's not just a playcalling issue it's not just a coaching issue. When you observe players basically going through the motions it says they don't believe in what they're doing and if they don't believe in what they're doing you evaluate every moving part and reassess. But you can't evaluate every moving part if the engine at the center does not possess the necessary ability for you to open up the entire field and keep the defense honest. What you see now is the result of three years of trying to build a system around this quarterback. All these players watch film together and see the same thing we do. And the only reason guys like TMac looked the way he did early on is because he is the newest part to the system. Only 4 games in and even he is starting to have the same body language. All this other rabble about what Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are doing as if they are both very short and possess limited at best physical talent is just cope.

Whatever the Panthers do going forward after this season it better be with a mindset that you always need some level of competition in the QB room. Nobody cares about how much the starting QB likes the second or third string QB's. They aren't here to knit sweaters they're here to play football and compete.

The majority of people here seem to agree this is a layered issue on both sides of the ball and coaching is not getting it done on top. But we cannot dismiss the levels of issues that stem from our starting QB with his lack of physical traits and the domino effect it creates for the offense as a whole. Like for example the video mentions we need more plays from the shotgun and more play action as if that's not something the defenses are going to expect. Newsflash Bryce Young played overwhelmingly from shotgun in college and has never been comfortable from under center for a number of a reasons the most obvious being his height and the issues that creates and needing to take longer dropbacks to actually see the field. We ran a ton of plays from shotgun early in his rookie season it didn't make a difference. In October of Bryce Young's third season there are 30+ games worth of tape for defenses to look at and this is how it is going to be for him regardless of scheme or playcalling. Defensive coordinators are daring him to throw downfield and in the rare event he does the passes are consistently poor and off the mark.

The current OL issues were always my concern when we made the panic FA signings that catapulted our salary cap allocation to the unit to the top of the league. For a brief time we did our victory lap but as we have learned as Panthers fans it takes more time to form a full picture. We are really not that much better off and we should have invested in the unit via the draft. There are many things wrong with this franchise currently. The defense is something we've discussed extensively. Evero is not the guy he was sold to be and we hilariously forced him to stay which has blown up in our faces. But for all the talk of how historically bad the defense was last year the reality of the matter is salary cap wise we are amongst the bottom of the league investment wise on that side of the ball for the year so everything flips back to the offense and rightfully so. Really the only thing going for us against the Dolphins is that it's a home game. But my expectations for the offense are more of the same. Even if we score on the first drive it just feels like a matter of time. When we played the Dolphins in 2023 we actually hopped out to a 14-0 lead in the first quarter then they took us out to the woodshed for the second half. We'll see how ugly it gets this go around.