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I mean there are people here who could have done a better job the last few years. Not trading for Sam Darnold was a pretty obvious one.

It's still very early but at the end of the day no matter which view you take on all this we did hire the right hand man and best friend of the worst Panthers GM in team history by a significant margin.

Oooooof. Well. It's going to be interesting to bump this thread next year. Some folks are either going to look like fools or pretty smart. Based on the Panthers history with moves like these I wouldn't bet money on the latter.

Alright lol that's enough

Sucks to see him go but I would not say he's irreplaceable. Certainly not if Brian Burns isn't. Now we're heading into my fear scenario though where we basically have to navigate a stellar draft. Hey it's sure a good thing we didn't retain the same scouting dept behind some of the worst drafts in franchise history the last few years. Oh...

We have the worst win % in all of sports the last few years and it isn't because of the defense. You guys just be sure to keep the same energy. The Panthers haven't gotten a great return in a trade in a long time. I don't expect this to go much different.

I mean maybe not that exact word but people have talked like he's a jag that's not an exaggeration.

With our history in the second round?

High probably he goes off for the Giants. People who think he's trash better prepare themselves. Whatever we get back we better nail the pick. Therein lies the problem.

If we actually get a first call Hurney and let him make the pick.

For a first sure. Anything else fug off.

I mean I wanted to address the OL. He's a damn good player. That's a lot of fuging money though... Now we need a center.

Not worried about Cousins. I saw all I needed to know in that final pass he threw against the Cowboys in the playoffs. Also fug the Falcons.

Tee Higgins is good but whether or not he will take that next step or a few steps remains to be seen. And isn't he due a new contract by next year? I'd honestly rather work the draft and take 2 receivers if needed. Trading for Higgins solves one need though our depth is still kinda meh because TMJ is done and Theilen while having reliable hands was one of the worst receivers in the league in YAC. Also trading Burns immediately opens the door for Dan Morgan putting himself in a situation of being desperate for pass rush help and I'm not exactly thrilled with the likely scenario of him reaching in the draft or overpaying a free agent. We also have the center position to resolve. This is a lot for a first time GM to take on. It's either going to go really well or really bad. We'll see.

Deja Vu. The names change but once again it's the same old Panthers.

Oof I mean I don't mind it if we're upgrading because he was not good last season but now you have to make a big swing for a starting center. I know the cap went up but we sure sound like we're competing to win now instead of building for a few years away.

Sounding like InOnEveryDeal all over again to me.

I get both viewpoints about LaMelo playing. You don't want to risk him to injury if it's a lost season. At the same time. Hey how about we acknowledge the elephant in the room? We haven't won a playoff series since the 2001-2002 season. At the end of the day if we ever want to change that it has to begin with the culture. And star players not playing if they can actually go is a tone setter for the locker room that is never going to get us over the hump let alone somehow win a championship. It's that simple.

Excellent title as usual SJ

I said believing it to be 100% true with absolutely zero input directly from the people who were there. One thing is for sure the story between Stroud and Young isn't going anywhere and will be talked about for years to come. They are forever connected. We'll get the whole scoop on it eventually. This is all ripe for an ESPN 30 for 30 many years down the line. Count on it. You don't see anything odd at all about the timing of the interview? Within the same week of Schefter name dropping her? Well alright. I concur on your final point. The issue is they have to show some kind of awareness and they lack that entirely. I'm beginning to think they are just that aloof. Which is certainly possible. We already know David Tepper regards his critics as basement dwellers. That's straight from the horses mouth. But hey if people want to concern post and agonize over a perceived lack of civility that's their prerogative.

We have nothing other than Schefter saying that and we have no idea who he talked to. It sounds like a coping mechanism to me that people want to believe that immediately without hearing word one from any of the coaches who were fired. They knew who wanted which QB. I'll listen when they speak. The sexual remarks about Nicole Tepper are ignorance and should be disregarded as such. At the same time let's be real here it is a very small percentage of posts in an overall discussion. And at the end of the day we all know how the internet is. You can't escape that. Overall the criticism is tame compared to some of the vitriol heaped on other public figures I would have to say. And furthermore at some point people who only seem to focus their posts on defending billionaires like the Tepper's just end up looking like Elon Musk fanboys. Legitimate criticism and discussion should be happening and it will be ongoing until the Tepper's stop trying to make everything about them and actually allow qualified football people to lead the franchise. This unprompted interview from Nicole was the complete opposite of what anyone in the Carolinas needed. Any remotely significant level of hope we as Panthers fans had begun to establish with the new year has again been reset back to square one.

Worst win percentage in all of sports. Some people want the team to actually compete and not be a dogshit franchise for another several years. Others want to white knight hoping maybe the Tepper's will read it and thank them. We all have our priorities I guess.

If your position is that you've stopped caring altogether then more power to you. So then you should have no issue with us discussing the fact she has no business being involved in the day to day operations of the franchise.

Didn't he score our only punt return touchdown in the last few years? Not inspiring a great deal of confidence so far but I'll wait and see what Dan does in the draft.

Do I seriously need to connect the dots for anyone that they are too involved in this and meddle when the wife of the owner who has only been married to him for barely 5 years does an unprompted interview as Panthers "owner" and proceeds to tout the concerts and events the stadium has hosted while making no mention of the win/loss record of the football team? She and Dave need to hire people let them do their jobs and stay out of day to day football operations.