frankw

I agree with you. All I can say for sure is I am beyond coddling. We coddled Darnold. We've coddled Bryce. Enough is enough. It's time to show up and show out.

Our third year 1st overall pick QB needs Thielen for that? I thought this guy was a savant field general aka a smaller Peyton Manning?

Either way he's out of here next year for nothing. You guys can shout into the void about what you think he's worth the league doesn't care.

To be clear. By definition the players considered to be "assets" here actually have a long term future. Thielen does not fall into that category as he has no future here and we have three (arguably four) promising young WR's already on the roster. And we already have veterans Moore and Renfrow. I think there are people in this thread mistaking their own personal attachment for actual value.

Jesus Christ dude our passing offense was 32 out of 32 the year he eclipsed 1k yards with us. Be rational.

Both are completely washed.

Dan Morgan will trade up into the second round to draft an RB with a torn ACL but won't take a 4th for a 35 year old WR who will walk and or retire for nothing next year.

Hopkins went for a 5th last year and we asked for a 3rd. Hilarious.

This is not a playoff team barring an angels in the outfield level miracle. It is and always was a developmental season. And at some point your QB has to elevate those around him as he was drafted to do regardless.

That's a young draft pick for a guy who guaranteed will not be playing for the team next season. You guys are too attached. And the players you're attached to aren't even that good.

Honestly getting a 4th would be borderline robbery on our part.

10/10 film.

Hopefully the Niners continue to flounder. Seeing such is truly the gift that keeps on giving.

There's for sure some hope with the young players on the roster. But we've had young promising talent before and squandered it. Let's see how the coaching staff positions them for success going forward. That's all that will matter.

How does anyone still think we're getting Parsons? Even if you trade a haul. Why would he want to play here?

I mean. Thielen being here or not being here is not going to push us in or out of the playoffs. That will come down to Bryce not regressing but taking huge strides and the young roster developing and Canales and his staff not getting outcoached. 35 year old Adam Thielen is not a needle mover.

Sink or swim for our QB.

I'm curious to see what we would get and which teams are interested. And yes his value here is at times ridiculously overstated.

It's a gamble no doubt but it had to be done regardless.

If you think we've actually been better than the Giants then more power to you.

In terms of enthusiasm at this exact juncture it's a 5 only because regular season football is back and we are 0-0 and there is the development of some key young players that I am very interested in seeing in regular season action. That brief high will probably be knocked down to 1 by October though.

Well just a few years ago they went to the playoffs and won a playoff game with Daniel Jones at QB. And while the Giants have been up and down at best since their last Super Bowl they have shown to be a more competent organization. While the Panthers haven't so much as sniffed the playoffs in nearly a decade. Logic would dictate that the Giants strategy has a high probability to be at least modestly successful. The Panthers? Eh.

If the best reasoning we can come up with revolves around doing well in practice that's not a good sign. But hang the banner I guess?

The Jags destroyed us 2 years ago without their starting QB. It's either going to go really well or really bad.