frankw

Rippadon if I'm not mistaken. Between Trask and Corral he hitched his wagon to some duds.

Are you mad about it buddy? You sure seem like it. Meanwhile all you do is whine about others posts. Why don't you go out and touch grass like you like to tell other people so often.

Definitely seems like the prospects of being jettisoned to the Carolina Panthers brought him back to the negotiating table. Amusing.

Hoping for a swift recovery for you.

Yeah he was right about POS Matt Rhule. Unfortunately for him he promptly faded with the ensuing teams he played on after that. I think he'll be fine in spot duty under Bowles though.

Would be worth it for the entertainment value alone. Heads would explode.

He had the best statistical season but basically the tallest midget in comparison to the rest.

1 year contract worth 1.25 million. And yes sadly he's better than our QB2.

I'd lean more towards Todd Bowles and the Bucs GM. Baker always had the phsyical tools. It was his mouth and his ego that got him into trouble. But Bowles like DeMeco Ryans for Stroud in Houston is the common thread. When you have the right head coach you can remove and replace coaches and keep chugging along. We need to see Canales emerge as that type of presence this season.

Matt Rhule had no clue how to develop a QB let's be real. And at this point it remains to be seen if Dave Canales is worthy of his QB whisperer reputation.

Handing Ryan Fitzgerald the keys and seeing what happens was the only move.

Or he looked better in practice because he had on a red jersey. There will be other options anyways.

In 3 preseason games he had 191 passing yards 3.4 yards per attempt 42.9% completion 1 TD 2 INTs. Possibly a downgrade from even Plummer.

4 career starts 58.7 completion % 1 touchdown 5 interceptions.

Let's pause a sec and rewind. The hype for Bryce Young before we drafted him was beyond anything I've seen in a long time. If you're trying to tell me now after all the hoopla about his ability to make those around him better and the comparisons to hall of fame players across different sports leagues that him taking the next step this year fully hinges on Adam Thielen then we're probably already doomed. Thielen is not going to keep any defenses up at night. He has good hands and very low YAC. We have 4 young WR's ahead of him with potential that need crucial development and we certainly need to find out what we have in them sooner rather than later because regardless of what transpires this season the QB room should undoubtedly be getting a hard reset. Those reps need to go to the young WR's regardless. Bryce needs to step up and take ownership of the relationship between himself and his young receivers. That's why we drafted him.

Plummer the first cut. How fitting.

Just so we're clear. The discussed compensation for a 35 year old player who won't be here next season was a 4th. We recently took Etienne and Ransom in the 4th and both look promising. Are you suggesting they're scrubs?

Panthers starters average age: 25.59 Texans starters average age: 26.08 Regardless of the Thielen trade or no trade the Panthers coaching staff have got to elevate this roster. It's inexcusable looking at the shape our division is in currently.

Look at a team like the Texans who already have two playoff wins after being one play away from the first overall pick less than 3 years ago. Their oldest backup QB at any point since drafting Stroud is 26 years old. He also has a playoff win. Their wide receivers have never been older than 31 and that was Diontae Johnson last year as nothing more than a depth move after an injury who is anything but a veteran mentor. Beyond that virtually every receiver has been 23-27. They have one guy right now who is 29 the same age as Renfro. They have talent but they do not have head and shoulders that much more talent than the Panthers and they do not rely on aging veterans to a fault. At some point we cannot keep making excuses for our FO and staff.

I think it's a myth you absolutely need vets at those positions just for your young talent to display even marginal levels of competency. It's a cop out for your coaching staff who should be up to the task.

Morgan at this point is just an extension of Tepper. I get the sense the only way they move on from Bryce is if he looks horrific across the bulk of the season and forces their hand. They are dug in on justifying the pick and the trade. They've done everything possible to telegraph that to anyone observing. If they do move on though we should expect a seeking instant results splash type move. That fits the MO so far. That could very well be an FA or a trade. And if we're being honest if all that happened maybe it would be for the best because it would truly drive him how inept this franchise is at developing a young QB across multiple coaching staffs. And the fact is they hired Canales to be a QB whisperer and so far we haven't seen it.

It depends on what version of bad we are getting. Can't have the locker room tearing apart over it.

I thought tanking wasn't actually a thing and we were firmly against it though?

You seem to have a very loose definition of good. Understandable being a Panthers fan. But turning down draft compensation for aging veterans with no future is a move perpetual losing franchises make.

WR market is to infinity and beyond. 3 years $61 million for DJ Moore a few years seems almost insignificant by comparison now.