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Offense starting to slow down already and the second quarter just started. Typical.

That was a super close nice throw on 2nd down. Good heads up on play on third down from Bryce. Credit where it's due. Nice drive. Now to see if they pack it in after the one touchdown drive. Drop 30 on these bums.

https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/mark-williams-inactive-streak-has-reached-a-record-breaking-length- I didn't quite realize it has been that long. That's wild. So at this point is it a drive issue? Does he want to play basketball? I don't like asking these questions of young players but after Gordon Hayward I feel like it's a topic we can't shy away from either. Regardless after this season we need to make moves surrounding our young stars Ball and Miller with a legit big man that wants to win like they do. If it isn't Williams so be it.

I don't care who wins just put up a fight and don't get outcoached.

Imagine coming to a message board dedicated to an NFL team that has the worst win percentage in all of professional sports since the owner bought the team and wailing to a bunch of working stiff fans that the same owner is being canceled.

First off. 99% of the people in this fanbase want to have a good team to root for and be happy doing so. One thing that irks me and this is not directed at OP necessarily but just an observation in general. People who point out the negativity and ignore the elephant in the room that is the win percentage of this franchise. Worst in pro sports. The fans go as the team goes. Such is life. Now on to the subject at hand. Most people myself included would accept incremental improvement while we develop what will become our core. Just give us a break from the embarrassing top to bottom blowout losses. One thing that cannot be understated is no matter how Bryce Young plays the rest of the season. If there's one thing that could make me just tune out from this team altogether it's another year of making little to no effort at bringing in competition at QB. No. More. Coddling. We need a second and maybe even a third plan. Look at the Falcons they paid Cousins and still drafted a first round QB. People here clowned them but at least they had a real plan and didn't just kiss Kirk's ass.

I don't expect much from him on that front. But I've been surprised before. Not going to talk trash because the Panthers could just as easily lay an egg and get trounced.

To win that convincingly minus Bridges Richards and Williams shows the growth this team is making under Charles Lee. Miller and Ball are going to be a hell of a combo over the coming years.

I get your point on the surface and obviously agree he like any other human being should have a personal life and time to himself but seeing him mentioned in the same breath as current or future hall of famers is beyond tiring. It's been happening since before we drafted him. Luke Kuechly is a rare breed. How about we just let Bryce prove himself better than one of the three current worst statistical passers in the entire league?

There is merit to the points you're making here. On the flip side one could argue it took us investing 150 million in the oline for him to have a breakout season. And he has still yet to hit 1k rushing yards in a season. As far as Brooks goes the position does not require that significant of a draft investment for many other teams. That's not being negative it's just a matter of fact. The 49ers did quite well with a UDFA running back while McCaffrey was out. It is understandable that some people have concerns. That being said it boils down to whether or not you believe in the player. We just have to see what happens with him and Brooks.

Of course it's ultimately on the Panthers. At the same time him engaging in that deception should null and void any claims of having anything be unfair at this level. He willingly played the system to get picked #1. He got what he wanted.

Right. Aside from that the other key issue is he is not in any way shape or form the football IQ savant that people sold him to be. The "field general" like Peyton Manning. He's missing things all over the field. Some of it you can chalk up to being beaten up behind the OL last year but even before that took it's toll he was not reading the field well and throwing very ill advised picks. Unfortunately this pick has been a perfect storm of bad circumstances that will get you a bust every time.

Obviously he is at a phsyical disadvantage but the laid back offseason certainly didn't help matters. As has been said before. If you're going to be even smaller than other notable comparable outliers you are going to have to work at least twice as hard as your peers. Bryce Young was never challenged like this before because he had the best talent and coaching around him in high school and college. He needed to completely flip the script on his approach following his rookie season. Do you think he did?

1 catch for 6 yards. He must be pretty peeved.

If impressing Scott Fitterer meant anything he'd still be here. As it is he is the guy who rambled to us about that special "nutritional program" they would be getting Bryce on when asked about Bryce's size translating to the NFL. Clausen got us Cam Newton for the record. We can put him in the hall of honor for that as far as I'm concerned. All Bryce Young has done so far is collect 38 million dollars.

Did you watch the first two games? As of right now statistically across the entire league only Aidan O'Connell and Jameis Winston have less passing yards per game than Bryce Young. Only Deshaun Watson and Jacoby Brissett have less yards per pass attempt. Only Anthony Richardson has a worse passer rating. So. Are you suggesting that is the result of Bryce Young working his ass off?

Worst win percentage in all of professional sports will do that to a fanbase unfortunately. On the flip side one could say no one is paying anyone to give the Panthers management lip service either. There's no right or wrong way to fan for this team especially at this point in time. Just have to take the good with the bad as far as discussion goes.

It boils down to either you believe in Chuba or you don't. For myself I 100% believe in him that he's a hard worker and a leader we want in the locker room. The issue is this investment paired with all the money we have tied up in the oline now (150 million in a single offseason) and Center is still a position of need going forward. Then there is the matter of the defense. Other than Derrick Brown and Jaycee Horn and maybe Wallace who has promise it's basically a wasteland. That cannot be understated. Dan Morgan is walking a tightrope here. Unequivocally he cannot play games with this QB room next season. Leave no stone unturned creating a real competition and actually have a real fallback plan.

I actually would be kind of impressed if he showed that level of cockiness. If you're going to be the smallest on the field you better at least have some fire in your belly.

You are taking rationalizing to an extreme. Yes the Panthers have been poorly ran to say the least. However both Mayfield and Darnold have the physical build and physical tools necessary to compete at this level. Mahomes? He's a generational phenom with every phsyical tool. Come on. Bryce still has to prove he can physically and mentally compete at this level against good teams. That's what we are waiting to see through the final stretch of the schedule.

Daniel Jones????