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Also here's some convo on Baker Mayfield's arm strength well before the Panthers got to him. Trying to compare him to Bryce Young is peak cope. https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/nwzx16/baker_mayfield_has_one_of_the_strongest_arms_the/

Man this place is a riot. When he plays average people compare him to the greatest QB's. When he plays poorly or horribly people downplay it altogether. Comical. Bryce Young and Baker Mayfield are two very different QB's. Baker has always had the physical tools and a really good arm. Bryce Young is not that and never will be. He outright refused to throw at the combine for this very reason. But he certainly won't even begin to approach Baker in the arm strength department by still going out of his way to avoid lifting weights in his third year as one of the smallest QB's in the league. Stop coddling him already he isn’t a newborn baby.

The Saban/Alabama effect is why so many in the media still refuse to even vaguely criticize him. But someone like Cam Newton got the daggers 24/7

It's wild three years and many poor or awful starts later and a 6-25 record and there are still folks blaming everyone and everything around him and "rooting" for poor Bryce Young to overcome all these circumstances that aren't his fault. It could never be that he is part of the problem. Crazy.

Been saying this for months. Eternal optimists spammed poo reactions left and right. Now crickets.

Pushing? You're the head coach. Dictate what YOU want.

Even before Icky's new deal we are ahead of the Chiefs at #2 by $14 million. #3 we are ahead by $26 million. We are absolutely paying through the nose to protect our QB who goes out there and plays horrendously with poor body language.

#1 in OL spending for 2025. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/position/offensive-line/_/year/2025/table/active/sort/cap_total

If one goes they both go. Then clean house. Every scout. See ya

Replacing Evero goes without saying. But we victimized ourselves by forcing him to stay on orders directed by David Tepper.

Some folks are beyond help.

Yeah not adding up at all. And we have leaned heavily into the PFF analytics as an org now even going as far as hiring one with such background. Doesn't seem to amount to anything in the win column though that's for sure.

I have no idea but I'll trust my own two eyes. He's still playing like one of the worst QB's in recent memory.

Oh man. The people here who went to the extreme to rationalize it were many. Oddest thing I've seen.

I think we can go back to disregarding PFF. Don't we have one of these guys in our FO too? And we're still dogshit? Yeah....

You called it.

That's what I mean. The full effect of what Cam brought in his prime would more often than not at least give you a game worth watching.

You can't actually believe that.

More concerned with his table manners than how he would actually translate to the NFL. Don't let these people off the hook either. The hype machine for this kid before the draft was one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

They blew us out worse than this two years ago without his goofy ass.

There it is! Of course you're that guy.

Ah yes the fabled "big time throw" metric that said Bryce Young was better than Josh Allen Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow lol

The Fins are the last team we want to be mentioned with. They just got dogwalked by a team starting Daniel Jones.

Well yes that. But I meant even before that. In 2015 and 2016 when they allowed the refs to actively push for Manning and the Broncos in the Super Bowl and our QB to be headhunted. And that was all despite the fact that our extremely gullible previous owner at the time went out of his way at every turn to be subservient to the league office even to the detriment of our franchise. No way in hell I'll just turn the page and start rooting for another team like it never happened. Just my .2 cents.

The only plus from here is over the course of the rest of the season Canales is either going to reveal himself to be the guy we hired him to be or he is going to flounder like Bryce has.