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Well at least he didn't muff it. We'll take it.

I respect the attitude Lewis plays with. As an aside. Wasn't Wharton one of the lowest graded defenders against the Browns? Edit: He was. https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/478458-notable-pff-grades-vs-browns/?do=findComment&comment=6913888

So we go from horrible offensive series by the starters against Houston to then light practice (lol) to now virtually no starters and apparently 4 quarters of Jack Plummer? Sounds like a dicey recipe entering the regular season with two road games back to back.

Doesn't matter anyways. There's plenty sample size with the Panthers to know he's largely horrendous at making decisions of any kind. Aside from putting the logo at midfield. I mean that's it.

Not delighted to hear of the offense making the defense look great in practice a few days ago considering the number of points they've given up in just two preseason games. We'll see how they look tonight.

There are similarities between the two in terms of trying to develop a raw passer. Allen's best season in college was with 56% completion. But unfortunately for AR he was even more raw and has apparently been pretty full of himself thinking he already arrived. And also the coaches were too willing to use him as a runner. All in all another example of ultimately squandering talent. All too common in this league.

As far as TE goes I pretty much expect to be disappointed. When was the last time we even drafted a productive TE? Kris Mangum in 1997? Woof.

At this point I hope he and the Bears start hot and then barrel right back off a cliff Chip Kelly style. Fug em.

Believe me I fully understand where you are coming from about the way we unceremoniously discarded Cam Newton and Matt Rhule's BS. I took that to heart. But I also learned from that never to get too invested in one player even if they might be built like a peak specimen and phsyically talented off the charts the likes of which few have ever seen. Everybody gets older everybody gets hurt sooner or later. Harsh reality. I am in complete agreement with you. Right now what matters more than anything is that Canales is the right guy. If we nailed that hire other things will fall into place even if we end up having to swing on a QB again. But Dave cannot keep having his football team show up to the field looking like the Little Giants. Like you said we just have to hope for the best right now and it let play out. Everything will be revealed this season good bad or ugly. Good luck to you.

Just to be clear. Last year around this time I made it a point to dip out for a few months and in that time threads still got derailed left and right and people were still going hard at each other over the same disputes. As CRA said this place actually used to be way worse back when Jake was playing and certainly Cam. People used to get irate at Delhomme and damn near call for his head literally. There are a lot of short memories or people who weren't actually around to see it. But the huddle will huddle because like it or not the Panthers will always revert to what they've been more often than not sooner or later. Even when we have hall of fame talent. To quote John Fox. It is what it is.

I'm done with this thread no one here is going to give an inch regardless no matter how many paragraphs we lob at one another. Plus I've already received a warning but others are allowed to openly call people asshole and spam reactions day and night like a lunatic. I'll be eager to revisit this place later in the fall to see how toxic it is. I can guess it will be a shitshow. Not a matter of if. Only when. Peace.

I cannot stand the Patriots or Brady but you are correct about this.

Going on likely 8 consecutive losing seasons under the Tepper's and there are people who look to their fellow fans as the first source of their problems instead of correctly assessing the team for what it is and has been. Sounds like a cult

Throwing a wounded duck directly toward three defenders is never a good thing at any level as a QB. I assure you there are very few people outside of the small circle of delusional echo chamber fans here who actually think Bryce Young looked competent at any point against the Texans on Saturday.

When Sam Darnold threw into triple coverage he was regarded as lacking the necessary football IQ to be a quarterback. When Bryce throws into triple coverage he's actually secretly brilliant. And you guys wonder why discourse here is in the state it's in

Oh cry me a river. David Tepper and 8 consecutive losing seasons have killed the fanbase and this site more than anything else.

No complaints here. I'll take anything over the current 2nd and 3rd string. But that's the state of things. It's so pitiful we've got folks basically eating each other here. If you aren't in lockstep with their delusional takes about this offense actually not being dogshit they're on you like a zombie in the walking dead. It's hard times.

There's a photo of Bryce Young standing next to Kyler Murray. Our guy is not 5'10 just being factual. At this point we just needed a QB. I feel like he will understand the assignment. Don't suck and don't get hurt.

The Texans are out here trading off young WR's and still rolling along. Meanwhile we're over here rationalizing two putrid preseason outings

I see absolutely no logic with trying to link the 2011 rookie of the year with this offense and a third year QB who is trying to shake off one of the five worst rookie seasons in decades. The only purpose it serves is to make someone feel better. If that's what you want great but it does not align with reality right now.

It was against backups let's be real. Oh good god man come on. Cam Newton is the only MVP in franchise history and was a culture changer. Nobody on this team has the clout to get the benefit of the doubt like that. Not yet at least.

You won't get much sense from some of the extremist optimists here. They'll spam poo reactions and flail and then slink away when we start losing.

They actually didn't look very good in that drive against the Bills. I can link you to the gameday thread on that one and there is one poster who got inundated with poo reactions for stating so and he ended up being right. It might not be the case for most of the NFL but for our Panthers unfortunately their flaws in preseason have absolutely carried over to the regular season as of late. I don't like it either but that's us right now.

He's 6'3 214. I mean if people can wonder aloud if 5'9 190 pound Bryce Young will have 15 rushing touchdowns and not even consider he might get laid out sooner or later idk why anyone would be worried about this UDFA. We brought him in as a passer either way. And if you look at the one game he played in the NFL with the Rams three years ago he was anything but efficient in that area. 100 yards 1 TD 2 INT's 56% completion 44 rushing yards. However it looks like he's put in some work since then. At least he's still fairly young and has been through some adversity to prepare him for this team. That's about all we can really say.

We had less than 100 total yards for most of the Texans game and finished with a whopping three points. There's a whole lot of real estate between that and 300 yards 5 TD's. People just want to see progression of any kind. And since when is throwing into triple coverage under any circumstances something you want your starting QB doing especially one entering a pivotal prove it season? The throw to TMac was high and on the QB. JT had a bad drop. Then Bryce had a moment where he looked completely lost fleeing the pocket and basically sacked himself. Not really anything to sugarcoat from this one.