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LOL the Bobcats couldn't get the first pick with what I assume is still the worst single season win % in NBA history but the Hawks get it with 36 wins. Rigged.

Well that's the problem. What's "good enough" at this juncture? Have we not learned anything from our Carolina Panthers in this area? I don't see us getting a proper return value right now with the rest of the NBA knowing our predicament. Look at what the Pelicans have dealt with in relation to Zion. The best path is to revisit this next year where there is a high probability his value will increase with improvement under Charles Lee. The biggest variable is the question of how much he will actually play. We just have to wait and see. I know one thing. The NBA better give us minimum another top 3 pick.

I'm seeing some revisionist history being applied in here about things. Such is the life of a Panthers fan I suppose. Some of us would like to forget the debacle last year. But let's not just throw poo out there that isn't true. We ran a fugton of shotgun plays last year and it wasn't just because our coaching staff was trash. Anyone with eyes could see it was to the direct benefit of BY and his phsyical limitations. He ran virtually no under center plays with Alabama and we talked at length about that before the draft. We can only have these circular arguments about last seasons coaching ineptitude so many times. Yes it was bad. The QB play was horrific at times as well. But let's not forget the fact that there were games where mediocre at best backup opposing QB's like Tyson Bagent and CJ Beathard looked much better than our own QB. We need to see better results fast with Canales.

You absolutely don't trade LaMelo Ball this early. One season minimum with Lee to see what juice he can squeeze out of him with this core intact. That being said I definitely need to see LaMelo not only get healthy and stay healthy (he's played less games than Gordon Hayward the last few seasons). But I also need him to mature and step forward as a LEADER. The clownery of yucking it up on the bench with James Bouknight while we were getting our asses handed to us soured me and I have been a big defender of LaMelo. When we first drafted him Scott Fowler put out that stupid hit piece and then got embarrassed for his take. Some of what we've seen from LaMelo as the face of the franchise and a Supermax player only lends credence to the takes like that from Fowler. That's a real bummer. He must take accountability and show that he is committed to basketball. Our new coach and GM need to make it clear expectations are no longer just showing up. We will see.

Whether or not it comes to fruition is obviously anyone's guess. But I love that he is not only familiar with Olsen but he wants to replicate that level of sustained success. That attention to history of his position and vocal confidence is hell of a lot better than what we've been getting from the position ie Ian Thomas here getting money just for showing up. I was already looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table but now I am individually a fan of his. I hope he proves himself. We need this mentality from the TE position it has been too long!

Ohh wee mayne.

Being a contrarian is more edgy right?

This game...

Sounds like a big FU and rubbing our noses in it from the league. Hey whatever we do just get the offense in the damn end zone against the Bears this time.

What it boils down to in Panthers country right now is you have two types of folks on the QB front. You have those who reside within some realm of reality and readily will acknowledge what's slapping them in the face. Then you have others that have to warp things to fit into the box they've created to handle the pickle we've put ourselves into. There's nothing wrong with either approach. We all know how tough it is being a local sports fan in this area. But eventually you've gotta remove the shades and get a good look at what's really going on. Good luck to you my friend!

Oh brother now we're latching onto Herbert to cope? I'd trade BY for Herbert in an instant.

Cam then is not Cam now. Cam now is fully embracing being another media talking head. The hot take brand of sports talk. I'm all for it because I enjoy him. But that's not for everyone and it's not breaking the mold either. But when Cam said what he said about Bryce and didn't say anything about CJ was before this new foray into media that he's in. It's fine to be wrong. There were a lot of people here wrong. They showed their ass about the pick and now some of them are either rambling about haters or they have gone missing. Where we go from here is what we've talked about adnauseum. Bryce either shows something to justify why he was the first pick or it's next man up in 2025. But whether it's Cam or whomever. My personal opinion is if you weren't saying it 12 months ago I don't wanna hear it now. We'll just agree to disagree.

Yes he spoke up and maintained the same (let's be honest here) drone take as anyone else in mainstream media that didn't want to go against an Alabama QB. But it was perfectly fine to drag Stroud through the mud even though he did everything asked of him throughout the process. Some of the ignorant assumptions being made and thrown at CJ Stroud were also similar to what was thrown at Cam Newton before his draft. Again. Cam had the opportunity to speak up. He didn't. That's all there is to it. Anything said now is just a flip flop IMO.

I'm gonna have to say it. Now let me make it crystal clear I was for years and remain a very vocal supporter of Cam Newton. I will forever be thankful to him for what he did for the soul and culture of this franchise in his best years. He brought us life and purpose. But moving onto the Bryce Young situation. I just felt absolutely zero pushback or even a hint or a simple suggestion from him or Steve Smith Sr of "Hey Panthers maybe CJ Stroud is getting a raw deal in the media take another look let's be real sure before making this decision". But no. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Now that he's got a YouTube channel he's got everything to say? Brother you should have spoke up a year ago. Your words carry weight. I still love him and Steve. It's just disappointing that's all I can say. They didn't make the pick it wasn't their call at the end of the day but they could have said something in defense of CJ. This after the fact mess isn't it. That's all I've got to say.

31 out of 32. I wish I could argue with it. I really do. Meanwhile people really log on here and waste keystrokes talking about haters lol. Nowhere to go but up!

I like him. Brings plenty of experience and he's young. His comments about the roster and particularly competitiveness are a welcome addition. "I see a group that just plays with a lot of energy, a lot of passion. I think that on the defensive end we have to create an identity of who we want to be. I think on the offensive end, continuing to play with pace, play together, play with the pass, and also try to give us a little identity on that side of the ball too. The biggest thing it's going to come down to I think, is how competitive are we going to be? That's a mental competitiveness, a physical competitiveness, and then also the component of how much are we going to do this for one another." https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/charles-lee-praises-charlotte-s-young-core-in-first-hornets-interview-01hxfaj13em3

JJ was a splash hire some understandably wanted us to make. I would have been on board with it. But it was going to be a dicey pairing given everything going on with this franchise and the need particularly for someone to come in and clean up not only the pitiful culture but reign in some of the young roster that is prone to distractions. That would have either gone very well or very bad with JJ you have to be realistic about that. This isn't a hire that is going to wow people but who knows it could be what we need. I'll give him a chance. I also want to see the contract details and how much we gave him.

If our offense and the general team vibe is dogwater in preseason again we should all bring out the torches.

If you're getting burned out from eviscerating each other over Bryce Young come on over to the Hornets section and talk some poo there. 985f79a7-9ef7-4dc5-9a8f-87afdbbfee36.mp4

Damn. If that's true about Atkinson and trying to force assistants on him that alters my view of him some. Still a dick move what he did but we played ourselves. But that ties into what we've already known about this franchise under Jordan. We didn't want to pay a coach what he's worth. It's crazy because it's such a 180 from the Panthers who will pay anything and still suck. But at least Tepper is willing to open the piggy bank. If these two guys who are the new owners continue with this way of operating we are pretty much doomed.

Kirk Cousins can go fug himself. I can't wait to see him throw some passes short of the sticks while the game is on the line with the Falcons.

I love them because Panthers but our social media team sometimes has the awareness of a brick. Meanwhile opposing secondaries we will be facing are watching that like:

Not worried about history with numbers. Funchess like KB could have been a very solid receiver at minimum. They didn't want it. Legette seems hungry. Just get this man the ball and let him work. On another note. It is good to see a TE with legit receiving potential with a jersey number in the 80's again.

I'm not going to find a reason to be negative about them giving back. Good for these students. Perhaps Nicole should have led with the work they are doing to give back to the local community instead of concerts when asked what they are most proud of so far.

Much has been said about ACL injuries out of college basically being NBD. You still have to be extra cautious given your investment we didn’t take a late round flier on Brooks we drafted him high. This is the drawback. We can easily pickup another back or two after cuts. But this talk of carrying 5 RB's like we're playing 90's football is not helping my confidence in the passing offense for 2024.