frankw

Your reasoning is based on what you want. You are not operating on a basis any different from any other fan. We can argue all day about the pieces and the coaches around Bryce Young. The simple fact of the matter is as a first overall pick he is supposed to elevate those around him in situations too. We are not seeing that. In fact he is putting his team in early holes due to his physical limitations and his poor decision making. And he has done that now three consecutive years to start the season. If you want to sing kumbaya now that's great brother I've got no problems with you but you have been the complete opposite of that for over a year now and spamming poo reactions over Bryce. You have been by no means an objective observer anymore than anyone else. And no I am not going to quit the Panthers because Bryce Young becomes a bust. I mean you yourself have flip flopped on him multiple times so I really don't even know where you get the audacity to even suggest that lol. But again. Thanks for the conversation sir.

I was right there with you. I hoped for the best and tried to support once he was drafted. But the media created legend of Bryce Young the draft prospect was honestly like nothing I've ever seen. For a kid who didn't even play all that particularly great for Alabama (Mac Jones was the better college QB and it really wasn't close) he received an insane level of benefit of the doubt. From his supposed elite football IQ elite processing elite preparation elite field general abilities elite leadership yada yada the guy could do absolutely no wrong. Even when he showed up to the combine and hid out in a hoodie refusing to throw nobody batted an eye. And even after that he was still compared to current and past hall of famers in the NFL and other sports across the spectrum. If he didn't play for Saban and Alabama it would have been and would be right now completely different in the way he was and is perceived. But again. I've never seen anything like it for other prospects that I can think of in recent memory. Others have been dissected in some way or another. Maybe the only other comparison I would make would be Andrew Luck. But Luck had the necessary physical intangibles that Bryce Young very plainly lacked when you sit down and watch the tape. It was crazy then and it is still crazy now.

Morgan takes his orders from the Tepper's. Ultimately if we fire him it's just going to be another yes man. I don't like it either but that's where we're at.

Yeah this is overlooked for "reasons" but we aren't going to get those lucky breaks against legit contenders on the rest of the schedule. It's gonna get ugly.

3rd season in the league third 0-2 start with two different coaching staffs and playing horribly at best when the games actually matter and we need to win. But the jury is still out....lol

He's a first overall pick. He's one of the smallest and least physically gifted QB's in the entire league. We did not draft him under the guise that he would need top shelf talent and coaching across the board just to look mid. You are basing your conclusion on your emotional attachment. That's all there is to it. Everyone else can see it. Besides. You've already created a thread saying he should be cut a whole year ago. You have no leg to stand on in this discussion anyways. Appreciate the convo bud. Have a lovely day.

The bar just keeps going lower and lower. There is no bottom apparently.

It's less stupidity and more simple delusion than anything. Then there are some like certain posters here who have carried water for him for so long they seem like they might legitimately need a welfare check at some point down the line.

Thanks for pointing this out. In looking at the data. Bryce has the most pass attempts (90) which is the same number of attempts as 40 year old Joe Flacco. He and Flacco also have the same yard per pass attempt (5.4). But as you might expect. 40 year old Flacco still has more passing yards.

Says the guy who spends his days spamming poo reactions on honest takes about the most consequential player on the roster and calling people shitheads because they don't agree with you. Take a long break bud.

Yeah that's my issue. There can be two things true at one point. Bryce Young can be a bust. Xavier Legette can be a bust. But one is a first overall pick in his third year with 25+ starts of bad play the other is 2 games into his second season. But only one of them some people here are saying should be shipped off right now. They aren't being consistent.

You'd think they would already be clued into this by now but under the Tepper's there's just no awareness.

As long as we shoot our shot on a guy with the prerequisite miminum physical intangibles and a winning mentality I'll be able to at least hope for the best. That's all we can do.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/400999177 Yes elevating the talent around you is the starting point for a franchise QB. Even Cam near the end before his arm fell apart was still doing that. It's crazy how much some people have lowered their standards around here.

This is why so many people wanted to draft a center instead of trade up for an already injured RB last year.

Hopefully he will be alright. But this has been the story of the Panthers over the years. Sign a guy to a huge contract and then a year later the nagging injuries start.

He's a stud. Hopefully the franchise does right by him. Beginning with the first round of the 2026 draft.

Yeah they're only gonna die on this hill at the very bitter end. Because the owners wanted Bryce badly.

175 at best and that's being nice.

Pretty much.

Murray is not a very good QB this isn't a newsflash. Bryce Young threw the ball 55 times. Fifty five. And he still had less yards per attempt than Kyler Murray and only 108 more yards on 30 more attempts. 30 more attempts. Unreal.

Again. Get what for him? It serves as much purpose as trading Bryce would. Bryce is in his third year and there are still insane people excusing his horrible turnovers.

Our past mediocrity might as well be a dynasty compared to this.

I'm pretty fuging skeptical of Canales across the board as a head coach. But looking at how this franchise operates who in the hell is going to want to coach here?