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And if we're being honest Daniel Jones is still the better QB by a wide margin. And he has a playoff win.

Bryce does throw to the middle that's not the issue the issue is it ends in catastrophe all too often. And that is unfortunately directly related to his physical attributes.

It's in Arizona. But it's always fun waiting even longer to find out if we are going to fall victim to yet another ass kicking.

At this point based on what we know of how ownership operates and has meddled in the past it stands to reason that Canales was basically told Evero is going to be your DC if you take this job. And he accepted.

If your issue is with Evero then you need to direct your ire toward the Panthers front office as they are the ones who denied interview requests for him and made absolutely no attempt to even consider any other options for the position.

Also I would say 98% of the huddle is in agreement Evero is not it. But no discussion about the defense changes the fact that we have invested exorbitant resources in the offense via the draft and free agency in our attempt to make Bryce Young a serviceable starter.

You create yet another thread about this subject don't get the responses you like and then proceed to complain about the platform as a whole. Stop creating threads.

You ask this question while just casually glossing over the fact that we are dedicating the highest amount of salary cap to the offensive line across the entire league and we are ahead of the 2nd and 3rd teams by a very significant amount. That is a huge contributing factor for why the defense is in the state that it's in. So complaining about the defense in a context of making excuses for the offense and specifically the QB is only going to result in people questioning your sincerity on the subject.

PFF can put out whatever they like. I'm going to watch these upcoming games with my own eyes and form conclusions based on that. And at the end of the day there can be different things true at one time. Xavier Legette could end up being yet another swing and a miss. But if we are operating with the same set of rules that many have applied for our first overall pick then it is still quite early. But I don't expect consistency from that lot. As far as our staff and PFF goes I am a firm believer that no matter what happens the rest of the season we need to fully purge the college scouting staff from top to bottom and also rethink our use of analytics going forward because we have been terrible and we remain terrible.

It's going to be run heavy but it won't last long either way. Based on how some of our expensive defensive free agent additions performed against the Jaguars and the fact we have so many young players already on the defense unfortunately the odds are high we could once again find ourselves in an early hole on the scoreboard. If the Panthers passing game continues as they have it will be over quickly.

I'm trying to be kind but yeah. The Jaguars did nothing out of the ordinary or exotic they didn't even blitz much. They had absolutely no concern about Bryce's passing ability. That cannot be understated.

Hey bud. There's a whole world of middle ground between playing like one of the worst QB's of the last 25 years and playing like a hall of famer. Maybe get out there and explore it a little bit.

Different people across the sports media spectrum will make their own conclusions about the tape for Bryce Young. Much of the conclusions will be based upon personal feelings instead of actual analysis. But to me the only opinion about the tape that truly matters is that of our opponent. The Jaguars are not a very good football team. They have a first time head coach. They are not significantly more talented than us. But they saw the same tape every other upcoming opponent has or will see and they formulated a very basic plan to negate anything Bryce Young was doing and they did so with ease.

Only truly stupid or ignorant people disliked Cam Newton. He made our franchise relevant he tried to change the culture despite constantly being criticized for hating to lose. He looked the part out of the gate in a lockout year too. He was the complete opposite of what we have now. There is zero culture here. Just guys who make hollow generic statements over and over. I have no idea how anyone that isn't under the influence of something could draw parallels to the prime Cam era with that we have now. It's honestly offensive

That's what I'm saying. Exactly. I posted this in another thread. But Cam's MVP season we had $17 million and some change of salary cap invested into the OL for 2015. That was 14th in the league at the time. Right now we have $85 million+ invested in the OL for the year and that's even before Icky's upcoming new contract extension. Yet still somehow some people want more for poor Bryce Young. It is truly insane.

Injuries are going to happen. If a backup left tackle causes Bryce Young to fully revert back to arguably the worst starting QB in the league he isn't the guy anyway. We have the most salary cap invested in the OL for 2025 by a wide margin.

How dare anyone discuss what is clearly ailing this franchise. The nerve!

Well let's be realistic here. He could have taken one look at Bryce Young on tape and known what he was getting. As JackieLee stated his work with QB's like Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield is a big contributing factor in why he was hired. At the same time we also have to recognize other factors. Seemingly and realistically he was the only one seriously considering the job. And as far as "fixing" Bryce Young goes one entire staff has already gotten the axe over him. Frank Reich was vilified as possibly the worst head coaching hire ever. 2 years later the more we see of Bryce the more it looks like he was the problem. Right now we are at a true crossroads. We cannot just play out the season with Young and be a serious franchise. We have to try and see what we have in the young roster and firmly get some sort of look at Canales offense. At this point Dave Canales needs to earn the right to draft his own QB. So far he has developed bupkis at the most important position. And he and Dan Morgan made the decision to not give Bryce Young one iota of competition for the third year in a row. He cannot claim the cupboards are bare beyond his control.

That data jives with what we've seen with our eyes. 50/50 balls left and right.

I had to go and look up who our QB coach is and it's just some random jabroni. https://www.panthers.com/team/coaches-roster/will-harriger Meanwhile we threw $8 million at Andy Dalton just to be a friend to Bryce Young and Bryce once again opened the season looking like a bottom 3 QB at best. Just clownery all around.

Also just for comparison sake. Here's what the Panthers spent on the OL for 2015 the year Cam Newton nearly went undefeated with Ted Ginn Jr as his #1 WR. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/position/offensive-line/_/year/2015/table/active/sort/cap_total

If Bryce Young can't compete with this OL as a starting QB it's never going to happen.

That wasn't even your post genius. To be honest with you I have no need to converse with you since you have revealed yourself to be someone who lowkey despises the only MVP of this franchise. Be gone.

You know these threads are archived right? No one needs to save posts. I did not look up that thread or link that thread someone else did. I only quoted it out of amusement at how inept we are as a franchise and how we as fans rationalize that ineptitude even when it's something as glaringly dicey as drafting a player with a major injury. You're getting mad at the wrong person regardless. Maybe direct this energy at our current GM who is the former right hand man of the worst GM of any team in recent memory

Famous last words.