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I think that's entering into a different conversation altogether when using words like "balling" and comparing his output to others. The NFC is comically weak. What counts for franchise QB play now compared to years past is if we're being honest not that impressive. People who haven't been watching football long might see it differently. But a year 2 Cam Newton in this iteration of the league and NFC would likely have this team in playoff contention IMO.

Don't hold your breath.

It is not an insult to say he is a serviceable starter for the time being. If someone is wanting me to say he looks like a franchise QB right now that's entering hopium territory to me. It is encouraging that he has made the progress he has under Canales. That means that while I have gained confidence in Bryce I am even more confident in wanting to see Dave Canales bring in another QB who isn't Andy Dalton or Jack Plummer and see what a fresh QB room will look like.

Right. I'm just saying it is baffling that we are still drafting receivers like that and not placing a higher value on route running or hands.

The hater label has become so overused it has no meaning here in reference to Bryce Young anymore. This isn't a Cam situation where he entered the league balling out and people begrudgingly cheered and still lowkey loathed him. He's had to earn his gig back after playing horrendously. Now he's looking like a serviceable starter. That's where we're at.

I'm of the opinion that if it's a situation where we have to put elite pieces around him to compete we might as well have healthy competition at QB in place as well.

But we're still drafting receivers in his mold. Morgan is here. Same draft scouts are here. Idk why some folks want to give him a pass so bad. It's cool. Agree to disagree.

I agree with you on some things not others. Bryce has given me reason to believe in him as of late. At the same time there is no logical reason not to explore options for the QB room in the offseason. Especially if Canales can have this team competing the way they did on the road against the Eagles despite all our unfortunate circumstances with the roster.

Does it? He was here when we drafted TMJ. I mean I'm just saying all three TMJ Mingo Legette have some striking similarities in the hands department.

Sitting around pooing posts you don't like isn't helping your case either but that's all some of you've got.

He played well you have to give him credit considering this was a hostile environment to say the least. I still want to see a real QB competition next year though. If Canales can make Bryce Young look serviceable within the state of this roster then there is no reason to not have options. Anyone arguing otherwise is leading with emotion instead of logic.

We actually had two drives to score the potentially game winning touchdown and we squandered both. Some people want to find scapegoats. I'm just encouraged our head coach had us in position to even possibly win this one more than once on the road against the Eagles. That gives me hope going forward. Now we just need to add more pieces.

The blueprint series? I can't even stomach watching that. I'll have to take your word for it

I unfortunately agree it was a very risky move at the time. It was also one that would be under the microscope and now it's blown up in our faces. If you could please enlighten me on where you've heard this about Nicole talking to Morgan about draft prospects because I don't recall ever hearing that. I really hope it isn't true. But I know what to expect from the Tepper's.

Who drafted him?

Dan Morgan.

I still think he can and will be good for us. The problem is he was a raw prospect and nobody has the patience for it and I don't blame anyone for feeling that way. But again. We have to start asking tough questions of our front office and scouts because this is the second WR we've drafted in two years that has suspect at best hands and a limited sample size of production. We knew this when we drafted them. Morgan was heavily involved in the selection of Mingo too. We can bash these guys all we want but they didn't draft themselves. Folks here need to decide what they want. Morgan has gotten a lot of praise as of late but people need to start asking more questions about our scouting process and why we covet some of the players we do over others.

This falls on our front office and scouting staff. They are making the choice to draft guys that have to develop hands instead of the other way around.

XL is an asset idk why people keep downing him but poo posts about Bryce.

They are insane.

Sounds like some bizarre logic to me the stats are part of the game and nobody even said anything negative. It's weirdo behavior that ya'll are this sensitive.

See above. Careful. There's some snowflakes around here who will poo your post just for mentioning his stat line.

It's been a well coached game from Canales and Bryce is playing well within that structure. It's good to see. The biggest takeaway I have right now is so far our head coach is looking like the guy we sought when we hired him. That's something to build on heading into next season regardless of QB.

Eh I don't think it's going to change you look at kicker across the nfl this is how the position is now. There's no more rock solid kickers like that anymore. Teams just switch and keep it pushing.

Enough with the Ray Finkle shenanigans. Where's that kicker we had in camp? Bring him in and see what's what.