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I'm curious where Teddy would be in that list too. He probably got the ball out quicker than most.

The Panthers have won some games here and there and even had a win streak mixed in. It's how they have performed within the division that has been their downfall. When you can only muster say two divisional wins that's four losses that can sink your season and certainly make it a tall order to make the playoffs. Competing with the Bucs Saints and Falcons is the first order of business to right the ship and truthfully enough is enough with the excuses from everyone. The team wants to be their own hype machine...well put up or shut up.

I had not heard that holding the ball too long was a knock on him it was correctly deciding where to go with it. Once you get to that it becomes a question of how often did he go through his reads. That would offer us a better sense of the relevance of data like this.

I felt bad and thought maybe 89 was a little harsh on him with the parking cars remarks but now it's clear the light just isn't going to come on. It's a shame but it happens. I'm not going to condemn him because I can't know how he has felt as I have been lucky enough to have had a great mother all of my life. I think he needs to talk to someone and heal. He is still carrying grief with him and it shows by how he is burning bridges everywhere he goes.

Worst case scenario is Sam is a turnover machine while the quarterback we passed on in the draft has a rookie of the year type of season. I don't think that is likely but it is certainly possible nonetheless.

From a social media viewpoint the new photography restrictions are somewhat understandable. But for a franchise trying to regain relevancy it's counterproductive in the short term for fan engagement imo. But the Panthers will be the Panthers.

DJ is gonna secure the bag no doubt. Ya'll need to put some respeck on his name this season

Seems like a nice way of saying we are just doing what we can with what we have. We need to put Sam in the best opportunity and that is by having this line formed by preseason and able to gel together soon. Optimism is good and we can sugarcoat some of this but opponents will study film and know our roster weaknesses.

You think there is some resentment in the locker room? These are grown men but it stands to reason not everyone who may just be trying to get that next contract and maintain their career will be thrilled with Rodgers who has already accumulated a fortune over the years.

Or this could just be the beginning of a new chapter in the nfl in the age of pandemics and vaccines. More and more players are getting ideas of their own. Much like with how Watson tried to hold the Texans over a barrel Aaron Rodgers has followed in those footsteps. Deshaun was just arrogant to think none of his activities would ever come to light or could be used against him. Rodgers for whatever people may think about his personality doesn't have that baggage. Now he reaps the rewards. I don't think we have seen the last of elite quarterbacks pulling these stunts.

I agree there is a double standard and Watson should be on the exempt list by now. But you have to remember that went down around the same time as the Ray Rice elevator footage was all over the internet. That was all in one summer. The league needed to make an example and timing doomed Hardy's career.

Hardy had a second chance though. But he ended up creating a public rift in the locker room and getting arrested for cocaine possession

He did later with the benefit of hindsight and wisdom being a little older. But from my understanding reading up on different quotes from Kobe's agent and others it was an impossibility. Even one of the personnel guys from the Kings said his agent told them point blank do not take Kobe he will not play for you. Mitch Kupchak last year said Charlotte had second thoughts and wanted to keep him when Vlade Divac threatened to retire. In the end his destiny was playing for the team he grew up with.

Well you'll get no argument out of me about that. But unless Watson is formally charged and sentenced he will get more leeway as a young franchise quarterback than Hardy did as a late round defensive end.

Kobe always only wanted to play for the Lakers though didn't he? We never really had a chance to begin with he talked of sitting out the season if we kept him. Small markets have been getting the shaft for decades.

I would obviously choose a premier tackle over Samuel but he is no Philly Brown that is extreme. I watched Brown drop like 20 passes in a preseason game one time.

Can there ever be a thread where someone isn't trying to garner sympathy for Sam bc he played on a bad team? None of our opponents are going to go easy on us because the Jets were trash.

To start there is much to unpack in all this. In possibly giving up three firsts as an intro to negotiations I would need to have some assurances there will be no more lawsuits or unnecessary distractions waiting around the corner. Also the elephant in the room is will he end up disgruntled here too? He has said he wanted to be involved in decisions in Houston is he going to get that kind of pull here after us giving up a haul just to acquire him? The new management here in Carolina don't have a great track record so far with handling delicate situations with their starting quarterbacks. They will need to go out of their way to appease Watson. You can't go anonymously mouthing off to the media on this one if you hit a bump in the road.

Lonzo has come a long way since his time with the Lakers. He could be an asset here.

People are still upset about that? Greg killed his own career and hurt the team in the process. His antics in Dallas slammed the door shut.

If you hate the guy just say that and move on man. I'm not making any excuses for his failures it's all there for us to see.

In terms of quantifiable success no. Bad drafting bad front office hires mediocre coaches. But the product sells. The team suckitude overall is only more of the same though. What can you really expect from a basketball city that thought Adam Morrison was a homerun? Your lack of faith in MJ as an owner is on the surface understandable but Charlotte basketball has spent the last several years attempting to cleanse a very depressing history going back to the early 2000's when it all fell apart culminating in another city having the rights to our team. It all may never fully come together under Jordan. But the team finally has it's young star they can build around so there is hope.

Tannehill is night and day better at taking care of the football and managing the offense by taking what the defense gives him than he was in Miami. In order for him to achieve that he is not asked to sling it like other quarterbacks because he has the most physical rb in the league and a very stout line. He ranked 21st out of 32 qb's in average passing yards per game. Lower than even three yards and a cloud of dust Teddy Bridgewater at 17. Sam will not have this luxury unfortunately. He will have one of the best backs in the game but a line in flux. He will almost certainly be throwing it more than Ryan T and as much or more than Teddy did. He will have to be as efficient as Tannehill has become.